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2005/10/04 20:11:37 (permalink)

2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest

Hello all ,

On another post for Hot Dog Johnnys there has been some interest in another Hot Dog Tour .
We are tentatively looking at next Spring and establishments to include Charlies Pool Room and Hot Dog Johhnys among others .
Brookquarry and John Fox will be coordinating the sites and running with the ball as it were .

We have to consider whether to get a bus , with the possibility of a slight additional cost due to the rise in gasoline and the extra mileage we will incure .

We have to pick establishments . Suggestions are welcome for Western New Jersey .

We need a date , My suggestion is around the end of April , on a Sat. Any suggestions otherwise?

This years Tour was a great success and will only grow bigger .
Meeting everyone who I now consider friends was a wonderful experience .

Any ideas or suggestions , let them be known here . 06 is right around the corner

Benzee
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    ScreenBear
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/04 21:24:35 (permalink)
    Count me enthusiastically in, Benzee. April is good. I vote for the bus. In fact, "I call back of the bus."
    However, I have a question of Brookquarry since you know the territory. Just out of curiosity. While hot dog establishments on the East Coast of New Jersey for the most part serve either all-beef dogs or pork and pork-beef combos, whether grilled, boiled or deep-fried, it is my general understanding that those frankfurter purveyors out in the Western environs sell primarily pork and/or pork-beef combo weiners. Is this correct? And if so, is there out West at least one notable exception to the rule that serves an all-beef dog and is also worthy of our attention?
    All of which has me wondering. Does anyone know what the regional preference of tube steak is in, say South Jersey, near Cape May? And for that matter, what variety might the average hot dog enthusiast in Glenwood, NJ, way up North, hanker for? Thanks
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/04 21:55:21 (permalink)
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    Count me enthusiastically in, Benzee. April is good. I vote for the bus. In fact, "I call back of the bus."
    However, I have a question of Brookquarry since you know the territory. Just out of curiosity. While hot dog establishments on the East Coast of New Jersey for the most part serve either all-beef dogs or pork and pork-beef combos, whether grilled, boiled or deep-fried, it is my general understanding that those frankfurter purveyors out in the Western environs sell primarily pork and/or pork-beef combo weiners. Is this correct? And if so, is there out West at least one notable exception to the rule that serves an all-beef dog and is also worthy of our attention?
    All of which has me wondering. Does anyone know what the regional preference of tube steak is in, say South Jersey, near Cape May? And for that matter, what variety might the average hot dog enthusiast in Glenwood, NJ, way up North, hanker for? Thanks


    ScreenBear- You are only a short ride from the fabulous Coney Island of Middletown-look at this thread for pics: http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8066

    and dont drool over the keyboard....
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 07:42:14 (permalink)
    In answer to Screen Bear's question, all of the local hot dog emporiums that I am aware of use pork or pork/beef dogs.
    In general the brand used are loca;Berks, Hatfield, Medford. Another local brand is kunzler, although I don't know anyone locally who uses them.
    As John Fox has pointed out the dogs are much milder than those used in North Jersey. I like them, possibly because its what I'm used to.
    Besides the possible choices I posted on the Hot Dog Johnny's thread, people might want to consider Yocco's, a Lehigh Valley Chain most known for their Chili dogs. They are not my favorite, but some people swear by them. The closest location is off Catasaqua road in Allentown, probably a 15 minute ride from Easton.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 08:23:51 (permalink)
    Benzee,
    Let's do it.
    Although I may just request to be dropped off at Charlie's and left there. I'll bring my cue.
    And I'll take the liberty of asking #1 son, who went to school in Bethlehem, if there are any hidden gems of dogdom to consider adding to the itinerary.

    Bill
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 09:54:41 (permalink)
    Schedule pending, I would enjoy this, though I'd catch up after or leave before Yocco's (overrated). Keep me posted.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 10:00:50 (permalink)
    We are in! (Sue and Bob) My parents have been going to Hot Dog Johnnys for years but I have never been there. The bus worked great last time I am all for this time too.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 10:01:50 (permalink)
    On a recent visit to my old stompin' grounds of Flemington, I noticed this new place in town (right on Main St.). A "hot dog emporium" (their words) called "Frankly My Dear". I don't know much about it but, according to their website, they have the best hot dogs in the state. Not sure if this would fit into your tour route, but though I'd mention it. Here's a link:
    http://www.franklymydearhotdogs.com/
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 11:05:12 (permalink)
    Just out of curiosity, I called "Frankly My Dear's" following PorkBeak's post. The fellow who answered said they use a 100% beef Thumann's. The website refers to it as a take-out restaurant...hence, I'm not sure if it has seating. Per Mapquest, it's about 35 minutes southeast of Alpha (Charlie's Pool Hall). So it may be a bit off the beaten path of the thus projected tour. I'm curious about Yocco's, but I've also, more than once, heard it was overrated. Thanks, BrookQuarry and Porkbeaks, for the info.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 11:13:04 (permalink)
    P.S.--I'm sure sorry I missed this Hot Dog extravaganza at the Museum of Natural History in 2002. It musta really been sumpin'. Check it out.
    Regional dogs, all under one roof. Boy O' Boy. http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/baseball/hotdogs/

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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/05 11:44:28 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by ScreenBear

    P.S.--I'm sure sorry I missed this Hot Dog extravaganza at the Museum of Natural History in 2002. It musta really been sumpin'. Check it out.
    Regional dogs, all under one roof. Boy O' Boy. http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/baseball/hotdogs/



    pretty sad stuff. don't know whether to blame the museum or r.a.

    you could look far and wide and not find a Best's hot dog on an NYC griddle. what you could find is a Hebrew National, but not usually as a dirty-water.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/25 18:28:46 (permalink)
    Hello all ,

    We need a list of possible establishments for the spring tour .
    Any suggestions ??
    Also a date - possibly late April?

    Benzee
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/25 18:42:27 (permalink)
    Frankly My Dear got a review in the Star Ledger a week or so ago. As I recall it got a fairly good review. I do know I didn't save the article, so it couldn't have been that good a review.

    Aside from the places everyone mentions (HD Johnny's, Toby's, Charlies Pool Room, ect), one place my son & I really like is Davy's Dogs. It's just off I 80 in Mt Arlington, great roadside ambiance, real good Chili Dogs.

    I agree with those who don't think Yocco's is all that great.


    ---Ken
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/25 21:02:23 (permalink)
    Count me in, based on dates.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/25 21:38:05 (permalink)
    Agreed, the review of Frankly, My Dear by Pete Genovese in the "Star Ledger" (Newark, NJ) was positive, though not glowing.

    However, among all the other Western New Jersey Hot Dog spots that have been suggested, this would be the only one that serves an all-beef dog. I think it's a Thumann's. John, am I right?

    So, that's a factor. Plus, the Civil War theme may prove an interesting experience. I just don't know if I can wait until Spring. I might have to nibble on a few cocktail franks while I'm waiting.

    Ooh, don't you just love those bread-enrobed frankfurter hors d'oeuvres, dippin' 'em in mustard? "Come back here," you invariably say to the waiter or waitress carrying around the tray at social functions. You can keep those puff things. Hot dog hors d'oeuvres. That's grazing at its finest!
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/10/29 13:14:43 (permalink)
    I certainly support such a plan. One caution, however; verify the cost of renting a bus. With fuel prices as they currently are, it may not be affordable to rent a bus. A lady I know here in Jacksonville, FL who conducts gambling tours to Cape Canaveral told me last night that renting a bus for such a pleasure trip is out of reach. Her next tour may be her last because of the additional costs associated with fuel.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/03 11:31:46 (permalink)
    Hello Jockey ,

    My dear friend this will not be our first endeavor into the charter bus field. Thank you though for your concern .

    I organize monthly bus trips for our local K of C and use a very reputable company that is very fair as far as price .

    We are heading to Foxwoods on Sunday as a matter of fact from Monroe NY and we are charging $35 per person and you get back $25 from the casino .

    We will have Gary as our driver , and everyone from the Jersey Dog Tour this year remember how great a job he did . Gary also mentioned to me this week what a great dog he had at Syds when he sat down with us and enjoyed the moment.

    He really enjoyed the day and would be our driver for a 06 Spring Tour .
    I will of course get prices for a motorcoach and airconditioned school bus . When we have a intinerary set , we will get the ball rolling .

    Jockey , have your friend go to a few different companies and explain how many trips a year they do , bus companies appreciate the repeat business , and if they don't , you find another comany .

    I'm glad to say we have been using the same company for 6 years .

    Benzee

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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/03 12:03:51 (permalink)
    Benzee,
    I'm really glad Gary enjoyed that dog at Syd's. I told him that if he had one dog that day, it should be the one at Syd's.

    Question, since you know about routing, etc. Would it be convenient for the Jersey contingent to meet and be picked up at Syd's? It's pretty close to #78 and there's a good-sized parking lot. We could kick things off there, so to speak...a little Eastern Jersey appetizer before embarking on the Western Tour.
    Thanks, ScreenBear

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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/03 12:16:03 (permalink)
    Benzee,
    I second that motion. I'm still thinking about that dog at Syd's. I'd LOVE to have one (one?) of those as a first course. Keep the caviar.
    Bill
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/04 19:01:01 (permalink)
    Hello Screenbear and Scallion 1 ,

    I will leave the pick up point in Jersey to John Fox as he has had experience dealing with the establishments . I would gather we would have to get permission from the mall for the day , where as with the GHI , they own the lot and let us park .

    Any pick up point is fine with me , they were all outstanding eateries.

    For the northerners I thought our pickup point in Harriman was a good place and plenty of parking .

    I was looking at the last Sat in april as a possible date . Any thoughts ??

    Benzee
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/13 22:18:24 (permalink)
    Hello all ,

    We have a few places set for the Tour .

    Hot Dog Johnnys
    Charlies Pool Room
    Toby Cup
    Frankly My Dear

    We probably could use one or two more .
    Plus we will have a Hot Dog place as our pickup point in North Jersey , possibly Syds or GHI ??

    Any other thoughts , you can keep this post going or I have added one to the Hot Dogs, Sausages and Brats Forum .

    Benzee
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/13 22:24:21 (permalink)
    Hello all ,

    Just a clarification , these places are not set for the tour but are possible stops on the tour , based on logisics , and thoughts of fellow roadfooders.

    Benzee
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/14 06:58:50 (permalink)
    Don't forget Jimmy's on the Delaware in Phillipsburg right across from Easton, PA. http://www.jimmysonthedelaware.com/
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/14 10:01:32 (permalink)
    Benzee,
    I second the suggestion to add Jimmy's. Their menu shows a double Italian Hot Dog for only $3.50 (It's $3.75 now...I called). This same, New Jersey specialty is $ 5.80 to $6.50 in the eastern portions of the state. Be interesting to see if it can hold a candle to the more famous purveyors in Newark, Kenilworth, Scotch Plains and Elizabeth.

    Jimmy's use a Berks hot dog, 10 to a lb. Might be worth checking out...adds an interesting mix. I don't think you're going to find another Italian hot dog in Western Jersey. John Fox, can you elucidate on this brand of dog?
    The Bear
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/14 11:04:03 (permalink)
    Jimmy's has a pretty nice view, too!
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/14 14:48:04 (permalink)
    count me in for the last Saturday in April.

    One possible problem with the choices, is that I'm not sure Toby's Cup 's parking lot can easily accomodate a bus. I'll scope it out and report back. It may be necesary to park in a nearby lot.

    Although the theme is West Jersey, I'd like to put a word in for the most well known hot dog spot in this area Jimmy,s at 25th street shoipping center in Easton, across the river. Jimmy's is reviewed on this site and also gets 4 grease stains from Hollyeats.com.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/15 05:15:41 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by ScreenBear

    Benzee,
    I second the suggestion to add Jimmy's. Their menu shows a double Italian Hot Dog for only $3.50 (It's $3.75 now...I called). This same, New Jersey specialty is $ 5.80 to $6.50 in the eastern portions of the state. Be interesting to see if it can hold a candle to the more famous purveyors in Newark, Kenilworth, Scotch Plains and Elizabeth.

    Jimmy's use a Berks hot dog, 10 to a lb. Might be worth checking out...adds an interesting mix. I don't think you're going to find another Italian hot dog in Western Jersey. John Fox, can you elucidate on this brand of dog?
    The Bear


    Berks is a milder beef and pork dog in the West Jersey/Pa style. Made in Reading, I believe. It's served at Toby's Cup, which is my favorite West Jersey dog, along with Charlies Pool Room. Berks are available at some Acme Supermarkets in Jersey. I don't believe a beef/pork dog would be good on an Italian Hot Dog.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/15 09:13:35 (permalink)
    One reason the Western New Jersy-Eastern Pennsylvania places use Brands like Berks and Hatfield is price.

    With the possible exception of Frankly My Dear (which I've never visited) all the places on the list keep their basic dog prices under $1.00. I believe there would be stropng customer resitance if the they were to charge the prices charged in the New York metro area.

    tHE local dogs are not only cheaper, but as John Fox states, much milder.
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/15 09:57:44 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by Benzee

    Hello Screenbear and Scallion 1 ,

    I will leave the pick up point in Jersey to John Fox as he has had experience dealing with the establishments . I would gather we would have to get permission from the mall for the day , where as with the GHI , they own the lot and let us park .

    Any pick up point is fine with me , they were all outstanding eateries.

    For the northerners I thought our pickup point in Harriman was a good place and plenty of parking .

    I was looking at the last Sat in april as a possible date . Any thoughts ??

    Benzee


    I'm in Westchester - where am I meeting you all?
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    RE: 2006 Hot Dog Tour Western Jersey - Interest 2005/11/18 15:44:58 (permalink)
    Lexi ,

    That dpends on a lot of variables . We will definetly be picking up in Orange County and then in Jersey . We do not have the details finalized but I would say if you are near the Bear Mountain Bridge in Westchester than meet us in Harriman . If you are closer to the Tappan Zee than perhaps the Jersey location .

    We will be discussing more tommorrow at our Coney Island Restaurant Mini Meet II in Middletown NY at High Noon.

    Interested parties in joining us feel free to email Coney Island Lou or check out the posts on the Hot Dogs forums .

    Benzee
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