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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/09 13:37:58 (permalink)
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Please post your sit-out list when you're able....we can hit those places twice!




I think you're more interested in JRP's sit outs- Tavern on Grand, Carol's Restaurant and anything hotdish or Scandinavian...Essentially everything that SCREAMS Minnesota and the Twin Cities...




Never bet against the ChiTownDiner....
 
I will challenge you to a Cream of Wild Rice smackdown!




Anytime....anywhere (within the confines of Minnesota)




Sounds good...during the Crawl....I say we start with 20 cups for round 1!  Agreed! 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/09 13:39:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2018/08/09 13:47:44
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Please post your sit-out list when you're able....we can hit those places twice!




I think you're more interested in JRP's sit outs- Tavern on Grand, Carol's Restaurant and anything hotdish or Scandinavian...Essentially everything that SCREAMS Minnesota and the Twin Cities...




Never bet against the ChiTownDiner....
 
I will challenge you to a Cream of Wild Rice smackdown!




Anytime....anywhere (within the confines of Minnesota)




Sounds good...during the Crawl....I say we start with 20 cups for round 1!  Agreed! 




Sure...I'm good with that!
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/09 14:49:01 (permalink)
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All talking of substance seems to be occurring by PM...#secretsociety 




Missed the Great Hormel Debacle...
 
...#deepstate
 


You didn't miss anything, that's the point.  Trust me, you were spared an unnecessary ordeal.
 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/09 14:52:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2018/08/09 16:14:58
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Lutefisk is a greatly maligned product.
When properly prepared, and drowned in butter and bacon, it can taste nice, just like butter and bacon. 
I had it one year at Tre Kronor in Chicago at their julebord dinner for LTHForum, and it was completely inoffensive.
Even Frank thought it was not terrible and he is 1/2 Norwegian and has horrible, scarring, childhood memories of it. 
So I would not be averse to a trial of lutefisk for the more adventurous amongst us...



"it can taste nice", "completely inoffensive", "not terrible", "horrible, scarring, childhood memories"...quite the sales pitch, LOL.  The one word I'm not seeing in there is "delicious".
 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/10 11:53:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wanderingjew 2018/08/10 13:22:30
I make an awesome wild rice soup using the turkey leftovers at T-giving- happy to share the recipe. 
super easy 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/10 13:22:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2018/08/10 15:54:50
Another fantastic recommendation  for breakfast in lieu of the cramped "who cares' Al's Breakfast or Mickey's Diner is the group friendly St Paul original mainstay  Key's Café - I had a very  memorable breakfast there 8 years ago.
 
 
 
post edited by wanderingjew - 2018/08/10 14:43:08
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/10 14:51:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2018/08/10 15:54:58
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Lutefisk is a greatly maligned product.
When properly prepared, and drowned in butter and bacon, it can taste nice, just like butter and bacon. 
I had it one year at Tre Kronor in Chicago at their julebord dinner for LTHForum, and it was completely inoffensive.
Even Frank thought it was not terrible and he is 1/2 Norwegian and has horrible, scarring, childhood memories of it. 
So I would not be averse to a trial of lutefisk for the more adventurous amongst us...



"it can taste nice", "completely inoffensive", "not terrible", "horrible, scarring, childhood memories"...quite the sales pitch, LOL.  The one word I'm not seeing in there is "delicious".
 
Buddy


Drowned in butter and bacon would make my flip flops sound as appealing as Lutefisk. Just one Canadian’s opinion.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/10 14:51:33 (permalink)
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I make an awesome wild rice soup using the turkey leftovers at T-giving- happy to share the recipe. 
super easy 


Please do. Sounds awesome.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/10 15:49:19 (permalink)
Something else to consider:  locally-distilled aquavit:
"I’m at the American Swedish Institute in Minneapolis. It’s one of the many parties going on across town to celebrate the change in season and the city’s heritage. The aquavit is made by Skaalvenn Distillery, one of a growing number of local places that has turned the larger sibling of the Twin Cities into the epicenter of Minnesota’s aquavit boom."
https://punchdrink.com/ar...l-norseman-distillery/
 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/11 15:26:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2018/08/11 15:58:31
I would like to suggest a non-eating activity. Would anyone be interested in an escape room experience? Breakout games has an Island Escape game that looks like fun. The room can hold up to 8 people. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I can set this up. Thanks!
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/11 20:01:05 (permalink)
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I would like to suggest a non-eating activity. Would anyone be interested in an escape room experience? Breakout games has an Island Escape game that looks like fun. The room can hold up to 8 people. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I can set this up. Thanks!


 Breakout? I remember that.
 

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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/12 12:04:59 (permalink)
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I would like to suggest a non-eating activity. Would anyone be interested in an escape room experience? Breakout games has an Island Escape game that looks like fun. The room can hold up to 8 people. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I can set this up. Thanks!


Breakout? I remember that.
 



Not like that. You get locked in a room and are only let out upon solving the puzzle. Not naming names, but I can think of certain Roadfooders who may never get out.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/12 21:10:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2018/08/13 07:25:51
The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/12 22:06:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby nagle 2018/08/13 09:19:27
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 07:26:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby nagle 2018/08/13 09:19:36
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 08:40:32 (permalink)
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 


Pie Trail, aka Sleeping in the car.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 13:27:29 (permalink)
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 

😺😺😺🥧🥧🥧
post edited by Davidsanders - 2018/08/13 13:28:41
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 13:42:23 (permalink)
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 

😺😺😺🥧🥧🥧



I'll be on my lutefisk smackdown!
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 14:46:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby nagle 2018/08/14 19:28:47
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 


Eight RoadFooders locked in a room trying to solve the puzzle of who farted!
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 15:14:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2018/08/13 19:41:39
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 


Eight RoadFooders locked in a room trying to solve the puzzle of who farted!




If it gets out quicker...I'll raise my hand!  Never have, but I'll raise my hand!  
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/13 15:31:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2018/08/13 19:41:51
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The thought of being in a locked room makes me shudder. I’ll be skipping that activity and instead looking for some pie.

The door isn't really locked. It is fun solving the puzzles with other people.




As I'm new to both, I'll keep David company on the Pie trail! 


Eight RoadFooders locked in a room trying to solve the puzzle of who farted!




If it gets out quicker...I'll raise my hand!  Never have, but I'll raise my hand!  




It's clearly the ChiTown express...or the "Windy City" local
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 08:24:02 (permalink)
Look who's marking Helpful...if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black!  
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 14:14:25 (permalink)
http://citypages.com/restaurants/spoon-and-stable-named-one-of-the-most-important-restaurants-of-the-past-40-years/490809901
 
"Food & Wine has it bad for Minneapolis, folks. 



 
In April, the magazine not only honored Jamie Malone's Grand Cafe as one of the 10 best restaurants of 2018, but went so far as to plop the chef's signature chicken liver mousse Paris-Brest on its cover. Most recently, it's Gavin Kaysen's Spoon and Stable taking home accolades—this time, as one of the 40 most important restaurants of the past 40 years.
Forty years! And Spoon and Stable missed the first 36 of those!
In restaurant years, 40 years is... at least 150. You know how many restaurants make it to age three? Let alone 10? But Kaysen's fine-dining gem has quickly asserted itself as one of the nation's defining eateries.
"Named a Food & Wine Restaurant of the Year in 2015, Gavin Kaysen's fantastic restaurant stands for the best of Minneapolis (and Midwestern) dining, ushering a new era for the city, now a vibrant food destination," the mag's staff writes. 'The James Beard Award-winning [chef], who spent eight years as Chef de Cuisine at Café Boulud, cooks modern American food that is emotional, fun, and precise, and we can't wait to experience the next generation of chefs who come up under his influence.'"
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 14:37:53 (permalink)
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I suppose that as a substitute for Chipotle, Dixie's on Grand is only 2-1/2 blocks east of Café Latte...

As mentioned above, we weren't overly impressed with the Southern fare at Dixie's, but a link in a recent post by rumaki led us to another link, which led us to Funky Grits.  Looks like they're opening today, so by next spring they'll either have their act together, or they'll be out of business.  I'll keep my eye on them via the interwebs.  Meanwhile, if any of our Minnesota Roadfood associates get the urge for some "Soul Food with Minneapolis roots" maybe you can check them out and report back.
 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 15:00:46 (permalink)
My post above leads us to an interesting discussion.  More and more trendy, cutting edge restaurants are opening up in the Twin Cities, almost to the point where they represent their "regionally appropriate" cuisine.  Funky Grits ain't no roadside diner.  Looking at their menu, a plate of Grits will set you back 13 bucks.  Granted, it's a fully loaded plate of Grits, including two fancy cheeses and a Walleye Cake.  But it's still a far cry from the Roadfood image of what a southern staple should look like and cost.
 
So, here's the question: What's the level of interest for hitting some of these higher end places that are coming to dominate the MSP food scene?  We don't want to sacrifice any Roadfood stalwarts, but if we're traveling all that way to get a regional taste of the Twin Cities, this is what's starting to define it.  In fact the argument could be made that this trend is the very definition of Roadfood; locally owned restaurants using locally grown ingredients, prepared by people who are passionate about their product.
 
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 15:07:26 (permalink)
"Funky Grits" in Minnesota. Is that a follow-up to "Ironic Wild Rice" in Nashville?
 
I think I'll pass and join wanderingjew for Hotdish in that time-slot.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 15:15:21 (permalink)
Buddy
 
It's not only Minnesota -it's everywhere.
Although I notice everyone has as bug up their  butt about traditional regional food, not only in the Twin Cities but in Denver and Boston as well (give me all the hotdish, Swedish Meatballs, rocky mountain oysters, buffalo steaks and cod cakes, baked beans and brown bread-they're all delicious and I love it).  Yet everyone thinks that the stale, out of date Jewish Deli's in NYC proliferate by thousands with 20 million happy families going there on a daily basis.
I could post daily reviews here in Rhode Island of Banh Mi, Korean BBQ, Burgers, Shawarma, Cubans and Shrimp and Grits and completely dismiss the touristy Clam Shacks, Hot Wieners, Pizza Strips and Coffee Milk as if they never existed. Everyone thinks of Italian and Portuguese when they think of Rhode Island- not any more it's not- it's all Dominican and Hmong now...
 
So to answer the question- NO - this is not unique to Minnesota- it's happening everywhere.
Recently it seems a few Roadfooders traveled to Denver and it seems their restaurant picks seemed like a tour around the college hill/west end neighborhood of Providence (not that there is anything wrong with that)
I went to Denver and the environ's back in the spring. and found some excellent LOCAL MOUNTAIN MAN regional Roadfood.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 16:49:11 (permalink)
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My post above leads us to an interesting discussion.  More and more trendy, cutting edge restaurants are opening up in the Twin Cities, almost to the point where they represent their "regionally appropriate" cuisine.  Funky Grits ain't no roadside diner.  Looking at their menu, a plate of Grits will set you back 13 bucks.  Granted, it's a fully loaded plate of Grits, including two fancy cheeses and a Walleye Cake.  But it's still a far cry from the Roadfood image of what a southern staple should look like and cost.
 
So, here's the question: What's the level of interest for hitting some of these higher end places that are coming to dominate the MSP food scene?  We don't want to sacrifice any Roadfood stalwarts, but if we're traveling all that way to get a regional taste of the Twin Cities, this is what's starting to define it.  In fact the argument could be made that this trend is the very definition of Roadfood; locally owned restaurants using locally grown ingredients, prepared by people who are passionate about their product.
 
No decisions are being made, just asking a question to get some feedback.  Take a breath, collect your thoughts  before typing your answer.  Spelling and grammar do count, not so much for a grade, but in terms of making a convincing argument.  Remember, a well written response catches more flies than vinegar.
 
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I’ll be happy to go to some of the higher end places if it means missing the Lutefisk smackdown.

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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 17:26:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2018/08/14 18:03:37
I'm not being a smart aleck......this time. How about Hmongtown Market in St Paul.  I saw it on Bizarre Foods, looked good.  AND, regionally appropriate.
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Re: 2019 Crawl Location Discussion Thread 2018/08/14 18:03:56 (permalink)
joe,
Hmongtown Market is already on the short (getting longer by the day) list.  Once we've settled on a date (more on that coming soon, promise!) I'll release what I've got so far, along with links, so people can get an idea of the direction we're going and provide the usual gentle, thoughtful feedback.
 
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