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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 11:25:28 (permalink)
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I don't know soft wheat flour.  We don't get White Lily in Los Angeles.
 
 


Soft wheat flour is pastry flour and it's winter wheat.  I'm sure you can find pastry flour somewhere in LA.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 11:35:44 (permalink)
Lisa, is pastry flour the same as cake flour?
 
(Would I really make biscuits?)
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 12:05:42 (permalink)
Heck, just get a box of Bisquick. It makes terrific biscuits.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 12:19:09 (permalink)
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Lisa, is pastry flour the same as cake flour?
 
(Would I really make biscuits?)


They are very similar.  The difference is in the amount of protein.  Pastry flour has about 9% and cake flour 7-8%.  But if all you can find is AP flour, use a scant cup and add 2T corn starch.  I have only used cake flour when a cake recipe calls for it.  I used pastry flour a LOT when I lived in France!  You cannot make proper puff pastry without it.  As for biscuits........they're not too fragile.  I have always used AP flour.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 12:21:45 (permalink)
I made homemade biscuits once in my life.  The NHL turned them down because they were too hard.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 12:37:51 (permalink)
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I made homemade biscuits once in my life.  The NHL turned them down because they were too hard.


You worked the dough too much.  Cut the shortening into the flour and other dry ingredients with a pastry cutter.  Then add the buttermilk and stir with a fork.  When it's still crumbly, turn out onto a floured surface and just smoosh it together until you have a rough ball.  Doesn't have to be perfect.  Roll out, cut and bake.  Do NOT knead the dough at ANY time. 
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 13:27:18 (permalink)
Thank you!  Might try it again.  Need more calories!
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/05/11 13:37:36 (permalink)
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Thank you!  Might try it again.  Need more calories!


Have another "spaghetti for four". 
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/02 19:23:53 (permalink)
Mrs. Chicken and I had breakfast this morning at Third Street Diner in Menasha, WI and I ordered the sausage biscuits and gravy (2 smaller biscuit halves around sausage patties).  The biscuits seemed fresh and recently made as they crumbled well, and the gravy had good flavor.  The sausage patties themselves were a little bit salty but the gravy and biscuits helped to offset that.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/03 09:36:57 (permalink)
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Heck, just get a box of Bisquick. It makes terrific biscuits.


That is the easiest way...drop biscuits with Bisquick.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/03 09:49:54 (permalink)
When I was a kid,mom always made drop biscuits with bisquick. Once in a while, she'd make the regular biscuits...but drop biscuits were the family standard.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/03 10:19:15 (permalink)
I make the drop biscuits with Bisquick.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/03 10:28:37 (permalink)
Quick and delicious. 
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2016/10/03 12:36:43 (permalink)
Yep. Stick your thumb into the top, turn it around a couple of times, and then pour some orange blossom honey into the hole. Deee-licious!
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/17 16:25:22 (permalink)
Today I drove by The Country School in Rochelle, IL.  As I'd not heard of it before I looked it up when I got home, and according to the web page their biscuits and gravy come with tater tots...that sounds good!
 
They also claim to have been serving the best fried chicken in Rochelle for over 45 years.  I may need to do some research.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/19 21:15:26 (permalink)
Oh my, biscuits and gravy for breakfast; with home-fries...my favorite breakfast....after a oysters Benedict (poached eggs, fried gulf oysters, English muffin, plenty of lemony hollandaise, but that's another post)
 
I do have specific ideas...biscuits, ideally homemade...but the frozen ones aren't that bad, and are better than canned.  I have had it over toast, too, and it's quite good.   Sausage gravy, made with whole milk, and plenty of medium or hot sausage; plenty of salt and pepper, be sure and brown that flour in the roux a bit before adding the milk.   Few restaurants do a good job on the gravy, I'll agree.
 
Now the places that serve the gravy over an UNOPENED biscuit just ruin it for me.   Gotta sop that gravy up, soften the biscuit, too, and unless you open the biscuit, you just loose so much of the comfort texture factor for me.   Same with the places that griddle the biscuit, forming a crust on what should be the soft tender middle.  Heresy.  
 
More black pepper, and maybe some Crystal or Texas Pete at the table and you are good to go.    Black coffee is the only acceptable thing to wash it down with.  
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/20 11:03:44 (permalink)
We actually get B&G out West with NO sausage. Like they completely missed the whole concept.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/20 12:18:46 (permalink)
I think that is what they call sawmill gravy, 1bbqboy. At least that is what it was called when I had it with no sausage...I was very disappointed.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/20 12:37:17 (permalink)
Locally, I have seen sawmill gravy, cream gravy, and country gravy used as names for what is in essence your typical B&G sausage gravy without the sausage
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/20 12:41:24 (permalink)
Exactly right, TJ.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2018/06/20 21:53:44 (permalink)
Well it should be illegal!
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2019/10/07 18:15:41 (permalink)
While on my way to Ohio at the end of August I wound up having biscuits and gravy 3 times; I didn't set out to but that's how things turned out.
 
Blue's Cafe in Kankakee, IL was my first stop.  Open since 1954, it's actually the newest of the 3 places I would visit.

 
Right on the menu it says that they're famous for their gravy so I didn't hesitate.  I hadn't planned on ordering B&G, but when they got all up in my business about how good theirs is I wasn't going to back down.

 
Blue's has every right to be proud of their gravy.  It had the right viscosity and a decent amount of sausage, and the seasonings were spot on.
 
I was seated at the far end of the counter and as such had a good view of these.  I don't care if they're homemade, I don't want any.

 
The next morning found me in Defiance, OH, where Bud's Restaurant has been in operation since 1939.

 
I sat in a back booth and had a nice view of the counter.  The pie case was empty when I first arrived, but by the time I left it was quite full.

 
Bud's also makes a nice B&G plate and just like at Blue's the day before a half order was plenty, and of the 3 breakfasts I'd have Bud's gravy had the most sausage.  And if you have car trouble you can call Gary.

 
Unfortunately(?) my 3rd and final B&G stop was mere minutes (less than 5!) from Bud's: Kissner's, which opened its doors in 1928 and is as much a bar (including the period-correct dark wood and high tin ceiling) as it is a restaurant.

 
Kissner's is a little different in that they use mild and spicy sausage (cut 2 ways, too) in the gravy.  It may have been the thickest and had the most unique flavor of the 3 gravies I ate, not only from the sausage variety but from a little bit of sweetness as well.  And truth be told, since I'd just finished B&G at Bud's it was difficult to enjoy Kissner's version as much as I think I could've if my stomach had been a little less full...but that's my fault.

 
Y'know, this trip was over 6 weeks ago and I haven't had biscuits and gravy since...
post edited by ScreamingChicken - 2019/10/07 18:20:38
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2019/10/08 14:11:47 (permalink)
Very Nice SC...B & G overload.  A nice B-fast every now and then...same for Creamed Chipped Beef.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2019/10/08 16:46:56 (permalink)
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We actually get B&G out West with NO sausage. Like they completely missed the whole concept.

Bill, we served a lot of Country gravy without sausage. We also used that same gravy for CFS and Maryland fried chicken. We ran out of it most days. After making a real country gravy with sausage I couldn't eat it. I should say my Gallbladder didn't want me to eat it.
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Re: Biscuits and Gravy 2019/10/08 18:42:46 (permalink)
I make biscuits and gravy all the time and never put sausage in it. I do cook sausage and use the grease to make it, but I don't add the sausage back in. Neither did my folks or grandparents or anyone else I grew up around. And most restaurants, truck stops and diners I ate in growing up, never put sausage in B&G gravy. We used, (and still use) the same style for everything, like country fried steak and fried chicken. Fat, flour and milk. S & lots of pepper to taste. Sausage gravy is something I didn't really run into till I was an adult and outside the Deep South.
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