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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/04/11 15:14:45 (permalink)
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Two questions tmiles:
 
1) Is there a difference between the Utah non-resident permit and the lifetime non-resident permit? I have never heard of the lifetime permit.
 
2)  Does Massachusettes recognize the Utah permit?  I could only get the Utah non-resident permit without having the (very hard to get) Maryland permit because Maryland doesn't recognize the Utah permit.
 
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The Utah permit is NOT good in Mass, but you can GET it here, or so I understand from an adv from a local range that showed up on my roadfood page. I would suggest that you ask a school that offers the permit. I have only the Mass permit, approved by my local chief of police, but granted by the state. It is expensive enough as it is. I don't travel anymore, and wouldn't take a pistol, anyway, so I see no need to buy another license. 
 
Massachusetts gun laws are tough and tough to understand. Even though it was not required to renew I took the required class  for new applicants, offered by the Worcester Police Dept. It was reasonably priced and full of good info, but I knew less coming out than I thought that I did going in. The biggest thing that I learned was how little that I knew.
 
 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/04/11 17:04:08 (permalink)
After I received my Indiana license I applied for and received the Florida permit and than the Utah permit. I only got the permit because I was bored and wanted something to do for 3 hours on a Saturday. The class and paperwork was around $150.00. Mine is lifetime. If the weather ever gets better I plan on going to the outdoor range by me, my area grew up fast and I don't shoot in my yard anymore. 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/06/13 20:50:08 (permalink)
I brought out the air rifles today , I have my Gamo sighted in pretty good , i'm beating the hell out of a cheap frying at 100ft.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/06/13 21:04:32 (permalink)
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I brought out the air rifles today , I have my Gamo sighted in pretty good , i'm beating the hell out of a cheap frying at 100ft.
Karl


A cheap frying? Frying pan? Would I be correct in assuming that your Gamo is scoped? I have mine sighted in for raccoons and woodchucks.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/06/13 21:25:28 (permalink)
Yes it is scoped. The frying pan is one of the green coated ones , made of aluminum , my family gives me their old ones and I shoot them.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/06/13 21:49:42 (permalink)

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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/06/14 02:49:28 (permalink)
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Yes it is scoped. The frying pan is one of the green coated ones , made of aluminum , my family gives me their old ones and I shoot them.

Won't they leak with all those holes in them???
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/11 09:56:43 (permalink)
The Marine Corps Gazette had a very nice insert, this month, on infantry battalion weapons. There have been big changes since I retired from the reserve.
 
The M9 9mm pistol is the same as at the end of my career. It is similar to one that you can buy, and maybe not as good as some of the more expensive civilian models.  We may go back to a .45, but not the 1911.
 
The M4, is a 5.56 rifle that is sort of an improved M16. It looks like the civilian, semi automatic, "assault rifle wannabes", but is capable of fully automatic fire, and can fire 700 to 950 rounds per minute. That rate of fire would quickly overheat it, and would  burn through available ammo fast, but it makes a modern day "Banzai" attack about as likely as a Calvary charge.  
 
For info on the other 17 weapons listed, you can go to the website, and look up the July issue.
 
It is interesting (at least to me), to note that the M2/M2A1 .50 machine gun is the same as when I got to use it,,,,,,,,,and it was old then. 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/11 11:02:40 (permalink)
Heck Recon Marines ( and other special ops folks) are already using .45s, including updated 1911s. And that Ma Deuce has been around longer than I have.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/11 11:07:39 (permalink)
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Heck Recon Marines ( and other special ops folks) are already using .45s, including updated 1911s. And that Ma Deuce has been around longer than I have.


NOTHING has been around that long.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/11 11:38:58 (permalink)
And I said good morning to you for this?
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 11:03:35 (permalink)
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Heck Recon Marines ( and other special ops folks) are already using .45s, including updated 1911s. And that Ma Deuce has been around longer than I have.


There are some actual 1911s still in use. The one that I had when I was on active duty (BLT 3/4, 1973-4), was made during WW II, and was, in "used, excellent condition". I never saw a "worn out" 1911, although I'm sure that some did, in fact, "wear out". I don't know about the Marines, having been gone for so long, but the son of a friend (retired SF) is coming up on his 20 years and serves in a front line unit.  His unit's M9s  are flat out, worn out, and they are not that old. Granted, combat will do that but most M9 rounds are fired only in training (if you need to use it in combat, you are, as they say, in deep do do)
 
I'm glad that the "new" .45 may be made in Massachusetts, and nobody asked me, but there must be enough good 1911s in storage, to last for a long, long time, because they seem to (at least IMO) wear out very, very slowly.  The new one, I am told, is cheaper to produce than the 1911.
 
Mr Browning didn't live to see his M2 become the gold standard, but from what I have read about him, I doubt that he would be surprised.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 11:47:06 (permalink)

 
Are there any builders on here.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 12:25:01 (permalink)
Mike S is a builder. Are you planning to hunt with the 6.5 Grendel?  The .223 Wylde is a really interesting one.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 13:59:38 (permalink)
No sir, not a hunter.  I have nothing against it but it is not my cup of tea.  These are all for the bench.  Built the 6.5 Grendel for more distance. 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 15:44:55 (permalink)
I see. I asked because the 6.5 Grendel is an excellent deer round.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 16:32:40 (permalink)
My Dad used a 30-30 for deer, but only in Vermont. Here in Massachusetts, it's deer slugs only, but the few hunters that I know go for the black powder season. It's really a joke. The black powder weapons that they use, are well made, and very accurate in the hands of a good marksman, not the "flintlocks" that the public thinks that they use. We need to do a better job with our deer in Massachusetts, but there is so much "input". IMO (and here I go with MY "input"), we need a longer season, more doe permits, and more hunters. If later in the season, a hunter can take some extra deer, good for him/her. I know that we want to be "fair", so that more folks can get "one" (and most folks get "none"), but at this point, I think that it is a primary concern to manage the herd. 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/12 16:47:22 (permalink)
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My Dad used a 30-30 for deer, but only in Vermont. Here in Massachusetts, it's deer slugs only, but the few hunters that I know go for the black powder season. It's really a joke. The black powder weapons that they use, are well made, and very accurate in the hands of a good marksman, not the "flintlocks" that the public thinks that they use. We need to do a better job with our deer in Massachusetts, but there is so much "input". IMO (and here I go with MY "input"), we need a longer season, more doe permits, and more hunters. If later in the season, a hunter can take some extra deer, good for him/her. I know that we want to be "fair", so that more folks can get "one" (and most folks get "none"), but at this point, I think that it is a primary concern to manage the herd. 


The primary concern with game managers is always -- at least in my professional experience -- to manage the herd so that it is healthy, doesn't become over populated, and causes the least damage possible to crops. In order to do that they have to balance herd size with societal needs, making certain there is access and acreage for hunters, who are necessary if deer herds are to remain healthy, considering that without those hunters there'd be little or no money for wildlife conservation.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/13 12:27:21 (permalink)

 
This was the first rifle I built.  All KIDD parts except for the barrel.
 
 

 
Another one I built.  This one doesn't get shot as much as the others but is still a lot of fun to shoot.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/13 12:30:26 (permalink)
Wow!
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/14 16:32:16 (permalink)
Most Roadfooders don't read this section, but the ones who do may appreciate this:
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I was about to graduate from The Basic School (TBS) in 1972. New Marine officers get more training than new officers in the other services, and we "all" went there to learn to be infantry officers, even the future pilots, prior enlisted, and future Motor Transport officers. In those days it was for 6 months, and now, I think it is about 4.
 
Some Congressmen came out to observe training, and the Captain was looking for volunteers to put on a "Dog and Pony Show" for them. Who wouldn't volunteer for this deal???
 
I got all of the 5.56 that I could carry, plus all the mags that I wanted, and a few of us at a time got to walk down a range, and shoot at pop up targets. I'm a big guy. Now, I'm fat, but then I was strong and could carry A LOT. Most guys took 10 or 15 mags, and loaded 'em up, but I took the Captain at his word, and loaded up with way over 100 lbs. I remember him looking at me, laughing. (They don't like me at "all you can eat" places)
 
I used full auto, with the goal of vaporizing the targets, without putting any rounds into the machinery. By the 3rd or 4th target, I was perfect. The M16 got really hot, and I could hold only the pistol grip, but was still able to keep it on target. Fun! After a while, I didn't need to pull the trigger, because when I put a new mag in, and let the bolt go home, the whole mag cooked off. The barrel glowed, but the rifle kept working. I just let the old mags drop,,,,,,,,we picked them up later, so a mag change took only seconds.
 
When I was done, the Captain said that he hoped that I had fun, because cleaning my rifle would be would not be much fun. It wasn't, but it was worth it. In those days, people were still complaining about "unreliable" M16s. I had not a single jam. A Congressman asked if I'd had a jam, or if I had a special rifle. He was pleased when I said,"No sir".
 
After that, my M16 was junk, but I had already fired for qualification. I will always wonder who got it after me, and if he/she wondered why it didn't shoot straight. 
 
Like I said, it was a fun day.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/21 14:29:36 (permalink)
Anyone here familiar with the Izhmash Biathalon 7-2-ko. Bought one back in mid 2000 for about $400.  Trying to find extra magazines, preferably the 10rd.  Seem very scarce.  This is a fun one to shoot, killed lots of thieving varmints around my place.  Very accurate.
 
Also looking for suggestions for optics on my Father's old hunting rifle want to replace the scope that's on it.  Rifle is a Winchester Model 70 chambered in .264 Win Mag.  Thinking about a Vortex Viper 2.5-10 or 3-9.
 
Tmiles, that was a great story!!!!
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/25 15:16:43 (permalink)
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I think that those look really good, and must have brought you great satisfaction as you built them. As of last week, you couldn't own them in Massachusetts. Our Attorney General (whom I am SICK to have voted for), via "executive order", banned the whole "look like assault rifle" class. The old law had been crafted after much debate, but our AG felt that greedy gun companies had skirted to rules to make barely legal rifles. About 50 rifles per day are sold in Mass. On the day before the ban, thousands were sold. In a fit that belongs on a comedy show, the AG has made those rifles not legal , even though they may have been legal when you bought them. Our AG has national ideas, and thinks that the "new" Supreme Court will back her.
 
I don't even own a shorter rifle. I prefer a longer one because I think that I can shoot better with it, but I am SICK that this new "law" has been passed..............well not really "passed", but rather dictated.
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/25 15:58:13 (permalink)
Sorry for the mistakes in the above.......I posted wrong and the edit function doesn't work.......but you get the gist.
 
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Re: Firearm lovers. 2016/07/25 16:25:14 (permalink)
Arkansas is very liberal in a good way when it comes to gun laws.  We can just about have anything we want and it will probably stay that way for a long time.  
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