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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/03 10:44:41 (permalink)
Installed the custom made bulkhead behind the drivers seat and then painted to match. I don't have to be concerned with any possible loose item from clocking the chef while driving...I over designed it, but it also holds the upper seat belt mount (retractor). Should be fitting plumbing and doing final installs over the next two weeks...
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/03 15:17:15 (permalink)
Do you have any inside pictures to update us with?
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/04 12:28:36 (permalink)
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Do you have any inside pictures to update us with?


As we install and finish I'll take and post up pics, right now a mess from all the construction, and pulling that awful protective film off the stainless....
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/06 10:19:46 (permalink)
Some guys/gals are good at everything. To have the skill to do a scratch build out should cut way back on your investment, making it easier to turn a profit. 
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/06 15:14:21 (permalink)
That's true, I think I saved more than half of the cost doing it myself. I have about $30,000 into everything including the truck. When I was talking to the professionals they said it would cost about $50,000 to $60,000 for just the build out if you brought them the truck.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/06 18:56:38 (permalink)
Thats really nice saving. How you manage to do that?
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/06 19:41:23 (permalink)
Bought the truck at great deal. Then I did the build out myself except for the windows, I left that up to the professionals. Its like building a room in a house, just take one step at a time and read as much as you can on this forum because there is a lot of great advice and information.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/06 21:50:37 (permalink)
Only a duma$$ does the window themselves!!
Oh yeah.... that would be me.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/08 14:36:58 (permalink)
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Only a duma$$ does the window themselves!!
Oh yeah.... that would be me.


That's why I sprang for a manufactured window...didn't have the time to futz with fabrication, when we had so many other things needing fab. There are at least six welded or scratch made things on the list for this truck, and thankfully the bulkhead was the last one....You keep working and fabricating because in the long run your saving $$$$
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/08 14:43:48 (permalink)
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/08 14:43:48 (permalink)

OK some progress on equipment install, and this is just stuck in and not bolted down yet.... water system is next in line starting today!
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/08 14:55:09 (permalink)
Looking good, its coming along. It always seems bolting stuff down takes so long, maybe because we take our time and don't want do deal with the consequences if it comes loose while driving down the road. 
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/08 14:58:58 (permalink)
Thanks why the "mega" bulkhead & 10+ grade 8 bolts holding it to the body...
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/14 18:45:43 (permalink)
What a food truck build does is increase ones ability to problem solve...every home built truck comes with it's own set of challenges to overcome. I feel like I have overcome most of the "big" ones, but a few still pop up....
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/19 15:44:24 (permalink)
Hey Nosh, kinda like you I am in the beginning stages of a truck build and have been lurking in the shadows of these forums trying to learn. I have a million question but the one thing that is really on my mind is what is behind the stainless walls on your hot line and behind your hood vent? Did you insulate, is it air space? This forum is very helpful but you tend to get an assortment of answers depending on where someone is from. I'm from a small town in Oklahoma and the health department rules regarding the building of a food truck are a little vague when it comes to construction.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/19 19:21:56 (permalink)
Welcome to forum and the insanity....To answer your questions:
1) Have you down loaded the OK state health dept regs on mobile food vending? Start there, and get very familiar with these rules, it will help you to pass the inspection.
2) Yes the regs are vague at best on what materials to put into the truck during construction. When you start to build your truck (or trailer) wiring can be done inside or outside the walls, they don't seem care either way. There are pros & cons to both. I went flex conduit inside the walls, I think it looks cleaner that way.
3) Insulation is must! you want to keep heat out and cool in...Wall materials on hot line = concrete hardie board 1/4" over the insulation. Tip: hardie board needs good support all around in the walls or it may crack during install. I had to put lots of wood furring strips in my walls to give surface area for screws. It's not a good idea to used wood behind stainless or alum sheet on the hot line. Most builders follow NFPA 96 fire codes. (for reference)
3) The vent hood requires an air space according NFPA 96. I had no choice anyway, my ceiling is curved and my hood is square. The local fire marshal said last year in a conversation I had with him, new regs are coming down for electrical, and fire protection in food trucks & trailers for Oklahoma. (don't know when??)
**I by no means am an expert on food truck construction** I am just sharing what worked for us and solutions to problems encountered. Remember, you are converting a vehicle that was never meant to be mobile kitchen! Curt
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/19 19:21:56 (permalink)
I hope I was helpful, always ask questions from other builders, there are many common elements to all builds and everybody here has knowledge of something that can help....
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/20 10:37:52 (permalink)
Did you put a door in the bulkhead to separate the cab of the truck from the kitchen? Ive got mine completely stripped out and have drama up and scrapped a half a dozen set of plans. Im in the process of collecting all my supplies. Once I've got most of what I need I plan to take a couple weeks of vacation from work and get started.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/20 14:02:29 (permalink)
My truck came with a flimsy wood bulkhead and sliding door (military surplus truck).. I opted to build a new one without a sliding door due to space concerns. We are going use netting that meet the HD standard for that opening. If you have room in your truck, I would go for a good bulkhead to protect the driver, and have slider. Just my 2 cents...Curt 
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/28 19:45:14 (permalink)

Cramming the two water tanks under the truck this weekend for a grand total of 62 gallons grey water.....
Had to get creative for mounting the rear one, very tight quarters under there! More to come later..Curt

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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/04/30 09:15:30 (permalink)
Very cool watching your build come together. Would like to try a build out too, but with Chicago's rules and regs I think it would be a nightmare. Keep up the good work, enjoy following along with yours and blakkmoon and inferno's build outs.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/03 13:40:03 (permalink)
Your project is coming along quite nicely. I am making progress but slowly. Trying to gather as much of my materials as possible and then burn 2 weeks of vacation and hit it hard. Had an aluminum tread plate floor that had some wear so I cleaned it up, hit it with an etching primer and coated it with an epoxy floor coating. Hoping that will pass HD inspection. On the subject of water tanks, does any one happen to know if you can use the same type of tank for gray water that is used for fresh water? Does it have to be one of those actual black sewage tanks? Those white fresh water tanks are hell of a lot cheaper. Once again the regs on this subject are somewhat vague. It does say the take must slope to the drain, but couldn't the white tank be mount to drain to the opening?
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/03 16:27:39 (permalink)
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Your project is coming along quite nicely. I am making progress but slowly. Trying to gather as much of my materials as possible and then burn 2 weeks of vacation and hit it hard. Had an aluminum tread plate floor that had some wear so I cleaned it up, hit it with an etching primer and coated it with an epoxy floor coating. Hoping that will pass HD inspection. On the subject of water tanks, does any one happen to know if you can use the same type of tank for gray water that is used for fresh water? Does it have to be one of those actual black sewage tanks? Those white fresh water tanks are hell of a lot cheaper. Once again the regs on this subject are somewhat vague. It does say the take must slope to the drain, but couldn't the white tank be mount to drain to the opening?

In my area using white tanks for both is OK, just as long as the black water tank will drain completely. Make sure your difference in size is observed. I build trucks and trailers for a living and never have a problem with any of my builds. Remember to vent your system!
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/03 19:52:36 (permalink)
Our folks here are telling us must be "grey/black" sloped tanks for drains. I sincerely wish white was fine here... but if you want to pass HD follow the rules. We may have "overbuilt" the truck is some area's but I'd rather have it pass than have to go back and re-build or change something to get it through.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/06 10:28:21 (permalink)
I was just lookin back on your posts here.
Now I see where I got the great idea to put that lip on the shelf....
Dang, I thought I was the smart one  
 
I'm still waitin to see how it all went with the generator and the hush box.
I want to do the same thing.
 
I have noticed that that champion is not as loud as I thought it would be.
At least when it's not being maxed out.
 
In a good box, I would think it could be fairly quiet.
 
I was actually thinking, if I ran 2 of those units, in a box, modified exhaust, etc.
I would have TONS of power.
And they would not be screaming because they were maxed out.
Might not be too bad.
 
Plus I could blow up a dozen of them before I equal the cost of using hondas.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/06 19:26:30 (permalink)
I have been so busy with water system and finishing things up, that the platform and "hush house" got pushed to the side for a while. I did modify the exhaust system to the gen so it exits down through the expanded metal floor and points to the street side corner, with a small car muffler. Still haven't finished painting it, so I guess I better get myself busy and finish the rest it. I'll take a sound bite of that thing at the end....please wait!
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/06 22:21:11 (permalink)
Now that I have been running my two Honda's for the last week while serving food. The same comment keeps coming up from customers "Wow, those generators are really quit" I say yep, but its costly. I'm impressed with the fuel efficiency, ran them for 9 hours straight and used half a tank of fuel, tanks are 5 gals each. I would recommend the Hondas.
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/06 23:31:14 (permalink)
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You know I don't doubt one bit, what you say about the Honda's.

How many watts are you pulling?
Did you ever test with a db meter?  There's an app for that.
Did you run them parallel? or did you have to run 2 fuse boxes?
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/08 00:17:52 (permalink)
Each Generator puts out 24 amps, I ended up running 2 fuse boxes. I think I have them fairly balanced. I think the factory specs on the DB's is 60db @ max load. Are you mounting your generator or unload it and put it behind your truck when running it?
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Re: Hello to all, new to forum 2017/05/08 00:34:19 (permalink)
I plan to do it similar to what you have.
Platform, genny mounted on that.
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