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How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang

Like many things associated with Texas, chicken fired steak is one of them that Texans just up and adopted for their own, even though it's not a Texan thing, at all in reality. I've eaten it all over the place, and cook it as often as I can, since it's one of my favourite meals, (with mashed potatoes, please) but I've never been one to associate it with Texas. It was always a staple in Southern diners, restaurants and my home, growing up.
 
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 16:37:39 (permalink)
I don't know. It's  my understanding that it became a Texas thing because of the Germans who settled in the Texas hill country in the 1800s. They brought with them the love of Weiner Schnitzel, but they had to use the available beef instead of the traditional veal and pork.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 16:44:28 (permalink)
Yeah, that got debunked pretty quickly in the article. I'm sure some of the Deutsche used available beef, but it was a thing in other places, and called chicken fried steak, before it was a Texas thing.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 17:18:26 (permalink)
I always thought of Chicken Fried Steak as a Texas (Oklahoma and even Kansas) thing. I know others for some reason consider it synonymous  to Country Fried Steak which is served around the South but from my experiences they are two totally different animals (figuratively, not literally)
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 17:35:29 (permalink)
Country fried steak and chicken fried steak are the same animal, just a regional difference. In the Southeast you're more likely to find country fried steak. and chicken fried in the western states. I use the term interchangeably, as do most of my family. And recipes for the two are the same. Just depends on where you're at in the US. I've seen it called country fried at a few places here in Indiana that serve it. As I recall, even Cracker Barrel calls their meat puck country fried.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 17:49:10 (permalink)
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Country fried steak and chicken fried steak are the same animal, just a regional difference. In the Southeast you're more likely to find country fried steak. and chicken fried in the western states. I use the term interchangeably, as do most of my family. And recipes for the two are the same. Just depends on where you're at in the US. I've seen it called country fried at a few places here in Indiana that serve it. As I recall, even Cracker Barrel calls their meat puck country fried.




I know we've had this conversation before (not with you but others)
 
I have multiple photos showing both 
(I'll include later when I have time)
 
Chicken Fried Steak seems to be bread, pan fried or deep fried and served with white gravy
 
Country Fried steak seems to be floured, oven baked and served with Brown Gravy
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 17:56:57 (permalink)
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Country fried steak and chicken fried steak are the same animal, just a regional difference. In the Southeast you're more likely to find country fried steak. and chicken fried in the western states. I use the term interchangeably, as do most of my family. And recipes for the two are the same. Just depends on where you're at in the US. I've seen it called country fried at a few places here in Indiana that serve it. As I recall, even Cracker Barrel calls their meat puck country fried.




I know we've had this conversation before (not with you but others)
 
I have multiple photos showing both 
(I'll include later when I have time)
 
Chicken Fried Steak seems to be bread, pan fried or deep fried and served with white gravy
 
Country Fried steak seems to be floured, oven baked and served with Brown Gravy


It might have been that at some of the places you've been, (I've seen the brown gravy on both, it too is regional). In the South(East) you're going to find country fried steak with white gravy all over, not brown. Not saying it isn't a thing, but I've never gotten anything other than white gravy on mine at any place that served country fried steak. Same with chicken fried. Brown gravy is the outlier, not the staple. And I've never had one breaded, of either. Both are floured, not breaded, in every recipe I have ever seen and in all the places I've eaten them.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:17:57 (permalink)
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Country fried steak and chicken fried steak are the same animal, just a regional difference. In the Southeast you're more likely to find country fried steak. and chicken fried in the western states. I use the term interchangeably, as do most of my family. And recipes for the two are the same. Just depends on where you're at in the US. I've seen it called country fried at a few places here in Indiana that serve it. As I recall, even Cracker Barrel calls their meat puck country fried.




I know we've had this conversation before (not with you but others)
 
I have multiple photos showing both 
(I'll include later when I have time)
 
Chicken Fried Steak seems to be bread, pan fried or deep fried and served with white gravy
 
Country Fried steak seems to be floured, oven baked and served with Brown Gravy


It might have been that at some of the places you've been, (I've seen the brown gravy on both, it too is regional). In the South(East) you're going to find country fried steak with white gravy all over, not brown. Not saying it isn't a thing, but I've never gotten anything other than white gravy on mine at any place that served country fried steak. Same with chicken fried. Brown gravy is the outlier, not the staple. And I've never had one breaded, of either. Both are floured, not breaded, in every recipe I have ever seen and in all the places I've eaten them.




It wasn't at some of the places I went to, it's been at every place I went to. The item served as chicken fried steak  was definitely prepared differently that what was served to me as country fried steak, the only exception was The Arcade in Memphis- what was called "country fried steak" on the menu was clearly chicken fried steak
 
*** edit**


Here's an old thread which I think clarifies everything
post edited by wanderingjew - 2017/03/22 18:20:49
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:30:45 (permalink)
Here is what I consider Chicken Fried Steak
Stockyards Cafe Amarillo TX
 
 
Stockyards Cafe Amarillo TX by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Ross' Old Texan Cafe Austin TX
 
Ross' Old Texan Cafe Austin TX by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Hoover's Cooking Austin TX
 
Hoover's Cooking- Austin TX by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Rooster's Cafe Jones OK
Rooster's Cafe Jones OK by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Haye's House Council Grove KS
 
IMG_5355 by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Kumback Lunch Perry OK
 
IMG_4861 by ohso37, on Flickr
 
I'll include the items served to me as country fried steak in a different post
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:35:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wanderingjew 2017/03/22 19:02:17
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:39:03 (permalink)
Wj , that looks like Country Fried Steak here in Southern Indiana. Whatever you call it , let me know what time to be there. The pictures look great.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:42:58 (permalink)
I like a restaurant that'll serve my CFS with both white and brown gravy.  Gotta be fair, you know.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:49:52 (permalink)
This is what I consider Country Fried Steak
 
Mary Mac's Tea Room Atlanta GA
 
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Sylvan Park Nashville TN
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Swett's Nashville TN
 
Country Fried Steak- Swetts- Nashville TN by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Coffee Cup Charlotte NC
 
Country Fried Steak and Sides by ohso37, on Flickr
 
 
Cafe South Charlotte NC
 
IMG_4484 by ohso37, on Flickr
 
Mary's Cafe Rock Hill SC
 
IMG_9050 by ohso37, on Flickr
 
 
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:53:10 (permalink)
chickenplucker's link makes sense. I thought Country Fried steak is then finished in the oven before being served.. I could be wrong about that. 
 
To me, chicken fried steak has always had a crispy texture whereas country fried steak did not. 
 
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:55:53 (permalink)
WJ , that looks good to me , but I have never seen anything around here that resembles that. But I will start looking.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 18:56:48 (permalink)
Looking back, I think my favorite chicken Fried Steak was  a toss up between Rooster's Cafe in Jones OK and Hoover's Cooking in Austin TX
 
My favorite  country fried steak was a toss up between the Coffee Cup in Charlotte NC and Sylvan Park in Nashville
 
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:02:41 (permalink)
Country Fried Steak at TeeJaye's Country Place in Columbus, Ohio.

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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:02:56 (permalink)
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WJ , that looks good to me , but I have never seen anything around here that resembles that. But I will start looking.
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You may have to venture all the way to Tennessee to do so. 
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:03:32 (permalink)
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Country Fried Steak at TeeJaye's Country Place in Columbus, Ohio.





 
Oh, what do people in Ohio know? They should stick to their Sauerkraut Balls and Greek Meat Sauce
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:09:12 (permalink)
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WJ , that looks good to me , but I have never seen anything around here that resembles that. But I will start looking.
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Uncle Groucho 
 
You may have to venture all the way to Tennessee to do so. 


Summer is coming , I will be heading down to Birmingham and Tennessee is on the way.
Karl
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:18:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chickenplucker 2017/03/22 19:24:03
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WJ , that looks good to me , but I have never seen anything around here that resembles that. But I will start looking.
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Uncle Groucho 
 
You may have to venture all the way to Tennessee to do so. 


Summer is coming , I will be heading down to Birmingham and Tennessee is on the way.
Karl




If you go through Nashville, I would have to recommend Sylvan Park. The original location has since closed but there is another location in Murfreesboro. I bet Arnold's Country Kitchen does a great version but I'm sure they only have it as a special once or twice a week. Swett's was decent too, I  just don't recommend the squash casserole it tasted like galvanized rubber.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 19:44:57 (permalink)
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Country Fried Steak at TeeJaye's Country Place in Columbus, Ohio.





 
Oh, what do people in Ohio know? They should stick to their Sauerkraut Balls and Greek Meat Sauce


Aha! A direct attack on someone from Cincinnati who goes by the initials TJ. How could you?
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 20:00:24 (permalink)
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Country Fried Steak at TeeJaye's Country Place in Columbus, Ohio.





 
Oh, what do people in Ohio know? They should stick to their Sauerkraut Balls and Greek Meat Sauce


Aha! A direct attack on someone from Cincinnati who goes by the initials TJ. How could you?




 

 
Perhaps I should  hit the spam flag on my post.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 20:06:14 (permalink)

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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 20:41:37 (permalink)
I remember my grandparents who were born in 1901 talking about their parents and grandparents making chicken fried steak. My memory may be a little off but they talked about storing beef in a crock or pot with grease poured over it for storage. They would then dig down in the grease, take the meat out and pound, batter and fry it and serve with pan gravy and potatoes. I also remember talking to the old men when I was a kid in the 70's talking about their ancestors going on cattle drives and the chuckwagon cook would cook chicken fried steak for the cowboys. It may not have been first in Texas but according to the things I've heard it was in Texas before what the article says, but again that's just from what I've been told.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/22 23:02:09 (permalink)
Although I got disputed in some recent thread concerning my contention, or something, that Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are part of the same whole, this is a cultural example where they are of like minds.
They would make a good Country.
I have relatives in all 3 so I'd have safe passage. Probably just a passport, not a visa. Some of the best I've had have been just floured thin steaks not pounded. Usually in small towns.
I agree with my friend Dale! :)
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/23 09:19:32 (permalink)
I don't know about everywhere else but in Arkansas chicken fried steak and country fried steak are the same.  It just depends on what the particular establishment decides to call it on their menu.  Most places deep fry them but occasionally you stumble across one that cooks them on the flat top.  In my opinion those are much better.  I'm lucky to have a place near me that is still using the flat top.  If you want, the cook will put brown gravy on it but it needs to be white for me.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/23 10:53:15 (permalink)
Never heard of southern fried steak. Interesting.
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Never heard of southern fried steak. Interesting.



Sorry, my mistake.  Meant to say country.  Typed while at work and was in a hurry.
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Re: How Chicken-Fried Steak Got Its Texas Twang 2017/03/23 12:36:12 (permalink)
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This is what I consider Country Fried Steak
 
Mary Mac's Tea Room Atlanta GA
 
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Sylvan Park Nashville TN
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Swett's Nashville TN
 
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Coffee Cup Charlotte NC
 
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Cafe South Charlotte NC
 
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Mary's Cafe Rock Hill SC
 
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Looks more like we call smothered steak around here.
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