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2017/04/04 22:46:37 (permalink)

Inferno Subs New food Truck Build

Here are a few pictures of my current build. Still waiting on the oven, generators and a health inspection.




 









 
 
 
post edited by Inferno - 2017/04/04 23:21:28
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    Blakkmoon
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 00:08:49 (permalink)
    That's a nice BIG truck!
    Now I know why you questioned my kitchen size!
     
    Those windows are freakin HUGE!
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 00:45:28 (permalink)
    how big is the fresh water tank.?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 07:51:20 (permalink)
    Nice!
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 10:04:24 (permalink)
    kitchen area is 17' long, truck overall is 27' long. I wish it was wider though. The fresh water tank is 30 gal and the waste water is 45 gal underneath. Also have another waste water tank for the hand sink and its about 20 gal.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 10:06:19 (permalink)
    The windows are really large, I wanted the largest I could get, and they fit like a glove. They are 4' x 7'.cost about $1000 each which included the extra marquee.
     
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 13:49:32 (permalink)
    Awesome truck...can't wait to try you when my rehab progresses.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/05 16:05:32 (permalink)
    Inferno Subs is the best rehab right there.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 01:14:51 (permalink)
    I think I know the answer to this questions. But after testing my water system my shurflow pump pulsates every minute without the water running. It must be loosing pressure which causes it to kick in. There is no leaks, so I'm guessing I need a shurflow accumulator to accommodate pressure drop and save wear on the pump?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 09:07:07 (permalink)

    Yes, this will solve your problem...make sure to get the sureflow brand. It has a bladder instead of just a pressurized canister. It won't leak down into the water system over time.

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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 09:12:42 (permalink)
    Up here, they don't seem to use them. 
    What everyone around here seems to do is wire in a switch to turn off the pump when not in use.
    Only turn it on when they turn on the water.
    Maybe its a climate thing? 
    I can't imagine a plastic pressurized tank does well when stored in -40 temps.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 10:29:53 (permalink)
    Does that accumulator mount after the pump on the pressure side? Will it eventual bleed off and the pump will kick on to refill it?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 13:00:17 (permalink)
    Yes the accumulator goes to the pressure side, and relieves to "surging" in the system. As far as enduring extreme cold, the plastic parts should be fine, as long as you drain the system during storage. I know PEX is resistant to freeze splitting, so that's the way I'm going. We plan to operate year round, so the fresh water tank & grey tanks will be filled and drained daily, also we might heat inside over night at times if the temps dips low. I have a shore power box going in at the house.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 14:13:10 (permalink)
    Out of curiosity, I see in the pictures a truck and an enclosed trailer. Do you run them together all the time, or is the trailer just a second unit by its self?  Have you had any issues with the large size, as far as getting into spots to serve from?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 16:21:16 (permalink)
    Acain - The trailer is what I use for concessions, big music festivals, county fairs, etc. The truck will just run around town doing my lunch time business stops and then setting up to sell to the public for the evening. We also have some hugs food truck rallies around here ever other week in the evening.
     
    So I now have another problem, my water pump stopped priming. I was working on my water heater and I ran the tank out of water, so no problem, filled it back up with water and that dang water pump will not prime now. Took the hose off to make sure nothing clogging it and it was fine. Any ideas? Cant fix the water heater until I get the pump fixed. If its not one thing its another, and my deadline to have all of it ready is by April 29th.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 19:26:42 (permalink)
    With main tank & heater full, lightly "air pressurize" the main tank with pump on and all faucets open. Its air locked, and my guess is its the heater tank because its up high.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/17 23:30:14 (permalink)
    I put pressure to the tank, got the pump to prime and pump water. But once I took the pressure away from the tank the pump could not hold its prime. I'm thinking its a bad pump. I borrowed a pump from a friend to try tomorrow.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/18 02:09:53 (permalink)
    Keep in mind, these pumps are meant to push not so much to pull water. Your water heater is mounted very high on the wall. A new pump will solve the problem for now, but probably wont last.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/18 03:09:56 (permalink)
    Not sure how popular these are in the states, but we use a small pressure bladder tank, smaller than a coffee can on our mobile systems. Cheap and reliable.
     
     
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/18 23:05:09 (permalink)
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    Yes, this will solve your problem...make sure to get the sureflow brand. It has a bladder instead of just a pressurized canister. It won't leak down into the water system over time.


    Nosh do they run off the 110v ac outlet? Or 12v from the truck battery or maybe a dedicated separate battery?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/18 23:57:53 (permalink)
    My water pump is run off a fused dedicated 12 volt circuit. I installed a small multi fuse block just for 12 volt kitchen functions. I have an inverter for the fridge to run in transit which, auto switches over to generator at service time and charges my 12 volt batteries.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/19 02:02:11 (permalink)
    Finally figured it out. The new pump is actually bad. Went and bought a new one, installed it exactly where the old one was and everything works good. The pump will prime and I have better pressure than I had before to the faucets. It actually exposed a few leaks that I didn't have before with the lower pressure. I was reading the specs on the pump and it can transfer water upwards of 7', so the water heater location should work good. Just strange to have a brand new Shurflow pump go bad, but I guess it can happen. Thanks to everybody for your help!
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/21 21:03:33 (permalink)
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    My water pump is run off a fused dedicated 12 volt circuit. I installed a small multi fuse block just for 12 volt kitchen functions. I have an inverter for the fridge to run in transit which, auto switches over to generator at service time and charges my 12 volt batteries.

    Nosh, could you describe your dedicated 12volt circuit? Is it like 18g/2 wire? what does the multi fuse block look like? How many items do you power? and are you using the truck battery or a separate dedicated one?
     
    I love the idea of an invertor to for the fridge while driving. Im going to do that! How do you auto switch to genny and charge the 12v battery?  Whats your configuration for that?
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/24 10:06:54 (permalink)

    To answer your questions I purchased a simple fuse holder from a local auto parts chain that holds four plastic blade fuses of your choice up to 20 amps. It has a clear splash shield. I powered it with a heavy gauge wire #12 (break out smaller feed to each fuse) directly off one of my batteries. I ran 18 g wires in a bundle with plastic spaghetti to protect them under the truck back to switches and feed out from there. At present I only have the 12 volt water pump & outside porch lights on either side of the window. Having spare circuits doesn't hurt. 3) My 1000w 55 amp inverter has a self contained transfer switch, so it powers the fridge during transport, then switches over when the gen is on. It also charges the batteries in gen mode. I guess to answer your question I have all 12 volt food truck stuff powered off the two common vehicle batteries, and they get charged by the inverter during service. I had to wire the inverter with 110 ac circuit to power the fridge, and it (inverter) is directly connected to the batteries by red/ black battery cables like you would used under the hood of the vehicle. Problem is the inverter could only be mounted five feet away from the battery so that dictates where it mounts....
    Finally found a pic of my holder setup, the clear cover is for the kitchen, and the other is fuel injection functions.
    (yes the engine has chrome valve covers, no reason, they were free!)
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/04/30 09:17:07 (permalink)
    Cool build...really like how you have the whole truck opened up with those giant windows.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/05/01 00:30:22 (permalink)
    Thanks. Only problem is there is no hiding from the customers.
     
    Finally got my oven last week. It was twice the size that I thought I was getting. So I got it shoe horned in there and passed my local health inspection. Stayed up until 2am Thursday night to finish the truck and mounting the generators. I had to be ready for a 8:30am morning live TV interview from inside the truck promoting our kick off event for our local food truck rally. So after working on this thing for 5 months Friday morning I was on my first journey with the truck until 4 miles down the road it quit. Of course, I forgot to put gas in the truck, oops. Made it to the TV interview in time. After the interview went to town and practiced serving from the truck, did not take long to figure out I needed to make changes. Saturday morning was our big kick off rally event with 23 food trucks and music stage with bands and a kids zone for the kids. We had 6 people inside the food truck and that was tight. Other than leaving the lights on and having to get a jump start the big first day went well. I will post pictures soon of it finished, looks impressive with the two bad boy Honda generators mounted on the back. i still have a lot of small items that i need to clean up but it looks like the truck is in service and it has a busy week next week. 
     
    For all of you out there building your truck, hang in there, there's great satisfaction knowing that you did it and you also can fix anything that goes wrong.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/05/01 11:03:04 (permalink)
    Congrats!
    I hope you can post a link to the video.
     
    Also want to see the genny set up.
     
    I am still undecided how to go.
     
    I would love the 2 honda's in parallel.
    But at nearly 7 grand a piece.....
    Its a little steep for me right now.
     
    Plan 1 = 11kw cheap genny and a well done soundproofing box

    Pros -
    Simple, cheap ( only $1000 ), one connection ( plug ), good warranty - costco - 2yrs, if it dies take it back
    Cheap enough I can buy a 2nd unit as a back up in case it dies
    Even when not in a box, they are not as loud as I thought they would be, as long as they are not being maxed out
    Great reviews
     
    Maybe run 2 at the same time so they are not maxed out ---- ( this just occurred to me ) - aint therapy great
    With 2 it's more power than I need.
     
    EVEN IF I had to buy a new one every year- other than the PITA of swapping it out.....
    This is 7 years worth of Hondas
     
    Cons - 
    Big, loud, no inverter ( although it says less than 5% thd )
    Not sure of quality - They are certainly frowned upon, but not sure why.
    Sound proof box MUST work
    Although, I have lots of plans, I won't know how well it works until I actually BUILD it.
     
     
     
     
    Plan 2 = Smaller ( less KW ) inverter gennys
                 upwards of 4 units

    Pros-
    1/3 of the price of the hondas
    Smaller, ( although I need more units )
    ( supposedly ) more fuel efficient
    Multiple redundancy
    Only fire up as many as needed ( COULD save fuel )
    3 yr warranty
     
    Cons-
    Double the price of the non inverters
    Multiple units COULD = multiple headaches
    Mounting multiple units could be a PITA
     
     
    Honda - 
    Well everyone raves about them
    For me it's just a price thing
     
     
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/05/01 23:08:37 (permalink)
    I look at it this way. You can have all the nice equipment inside your truck, but none of it goes unless you have power. Without power everything including the truck is a big paper weight. Consider this, how much would it cost you in sales lost if your generator went down? Maybe its worth the money after all. $7000 per unit is expensive up there, I payed $4000 each. I love my Honda's, turn the key and hit the button and let the fuel injection do its thing. Oh ya! A few picture below from our Food truck rally kickoff. We had 6 people crammed inside the truck, I'm glad everybody took showers. Oh yeah, I also need to order some air bags to level the back of the truck out, it squats to much. Need to get that done asap.
     









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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/05/02 00:46:17 (permalink)
    Nice looking rig!...You might want to look at a better method of securing your gen platform, it looks like its suspended only from two chains one on either side, this is most likely the weakest point, and if you hit any bumps that platform is probably going to be doing a lot of bouncing adding to the load on those chains.  I'd probably use some sort of angled solid brace, then use the chains as a safety backup.  Just an observation, hard to see everything from only that one pic.
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    Re: Inferno Subs New food Truck Build 2017/05/02 08:52:57 (permalink)
    I was thinking the same thing on the angle to secure the platform. Feels like lately i have been flying by the seat of my pants. I need to bump that fix to the top of the list. Thanks for reminding me.
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