Into bondage?

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2017/08/28 16:55:29 (permalink)

Into bondage?


 
Seriously, now that the electrical is all wired up...
It doesn't seem to matter who I ask, inspector, electrician, 20 year old at Home Depot....
I get a different answer.
 
I am no electrician, so...
 
The panel comes from the factory with the neutral bus bonded to the ground bus.
 
One inspector wants to see it NOT connected.  The other wants to see it connected.
 
I have read through pages and pages of code.  I think its starting to seep in.
Dozens of online discussions- which are just as inconclusive.
 
Here is my take on all of it.
 
Neutral and ground DO need to be bonded together.
It needs to be done at the starting point, not down the line.
It should only be bonded together in ONE place.
 
So you need to always know if your "source" is bonded or not.
 
In most cases, your shore power ( house ) already has a bonded g&n at the main house panel.
Therefore, the truck panel should NOT have a bonded g&n.
 
You should know how to check if you are at an event to see if THEIR g&n is bonded.
If it is not, you should know how to make sure YOUR panel IS.
( in my case it's just a screw )
 
Every generator is different, and you should know how to check it.
 
If you are running your generator all the time, IT is the SOURCE and should have the g&n bonded.
Then panel should not be.
 
If your generator is not bonded internally, you should know how how to fix that.
 
Here is a great youtube video that references most of it.
 
This page also references it and how to make a simple jumper plug that creates the g&b bond.
 
Does anyone have any knowledge they can input?
 
I feel so much smarter today than I was yesterday.
 
 
post edited by Blakkmoon - 2017/08/30 09:35:32
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    RodBangkok
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    Re: Into bondage? 2017/08/28 20:08:51 (permalink)
    well there's ton's written on boat and rv grounding, so if you have not google it, you can easily switch back and forth by making a ng ground plug that you simply plug into any socket on the mobile device, like this one:
     
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    Re: Into bondage? 2017/08/30 09:42:18 (permalink)
    Thanks Rod.
    Yup googled the heck out of it.
    As I said, same thing.
    Nobody seems to agree.
     
    Miraculously I DID hear back from the inspector who said that the g&n MUST be bonded at the panel.
    Who said : yup.... sorry ... you are correct.
     
    Wow!  I must be starting to understand this a bit.
     
    Scary...
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    Re: Into bondage? 2017/09/07 11:30:02 (permalink)
    Your inspector did not know what he was talking about. The NG bond is the difference between a main panel and a sub panel. That's it. If it has a NG bond it's a main panel. 
     
    Your right on the rest. You do not want a NG bond when your plugged into shore power because the shore power probably already has one. You do want one when running on generator. So the logical place to put it is in or at the generator. As you mentioned, some already have it. If your's does then you don't need to create one. If not make a jumper plug thingy. 
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    Re: Into bondage? 2017/09/07 16:02:35 (permalink)
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