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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/07 20:27:17 (permalink)
Ketteract , do the grocers and sandwich shops change their menu with the seasons or the holidays? Vegetables and such in the Summer?
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/07 21:42:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2017/04/08 08:57:35
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Putting Corner Grinder on my map now......




I'm told that they're looking to sell, so you may want to visit sooner rather than later.  

Can someone sell Windows out of there? I might know a buyer.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/07 22:10:30 (permalink)
How authentic is the "Italian" food they serve in Italy today? Does anybody know?
 
Anyone here eat in Italy before or during the Great Emigration to the U.S. and World War I? Anyone here eat in Italy before the Great Depression? Anyone here eat there before World War II?
 
Anyone answer yes? Then you just don't know whether the "Italian" food cooked by Italian immigrants to the U.S. (and passed to future generations here) is authentic, or the "Italian" food cooked by Italians in Italy today is authentic. Did the recipes and serving customs change more on this side of the Atlantic or more back in Italy? With recipes influenced by poverty and war in both places, who can say which is closer to the authentic Italian cuisine prepared before a single population in Italy diverged into two separate populations?
 
  
 
 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/07 22:34:47 (permalink)
Huh?????????
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/07 22:37:40 (permalink)
I was born in America,Saps. Both sets of grandparents were born in Italy. I have visited Italy multiple times and have become very fond of the wonderful people I have met there.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 07:26:57 (permalink)
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Ketteract , do the grocers and sandwich shops change their menu with the seasons or the holidays? Vegetables and such in the Summer?
Karl




Oooh, that's a good thing for me to check out.  Franklin Giant Grinder had macaroni salad last summer, and their menu includes "Soup of the Day", which could very well be seasonal, because the menu for Wethersfield Pizza House (really a sandwich shop, despite the name) states that their soup is "seasonal November through March".
 
It would be a great idea for me to tour these places at the height of summer and winter just to see what's on offer.
post edited by Ketteract - 2017/04/08 07:28:49
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 11:33:41 (permalink)
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Huh?????????


Because it was troll leethebard day.
 
So why is pasta now served different in the 2 locations? I don't believe that riding in a ship across the Atlantic in 1895 caused an instant change in how pasta was served. 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 12:33:57 (permalink)
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Huh?????????


Because it was troll leethebard day.
 
So why is pasta now served different in the 2 locations? I don't believe that riding in a ship across the Atlantic in 1895 caused an instant change in how pasta was served. 


Whose day is it today????
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 13:16:38 (permalink)
Enjoying the thread idea and the pics very much. The blustery debating not so much, but I'll focus on Ketteract's great ability to tell a story and bring us into his dining experience. Thanks again for finding these hidden gems and sharing your experience.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 13:38:40 (permalink)
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Enjoying the thread idea and the pics very much. The blustery debating not so much, but I'll focus on Ketteract's great ability to tell a story and bring us into his dining experience. Thanks again for finding these hidden gems and sharing your experience.


^^This
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 14:40:17 (permalink)
Amen to the above. Keep on, Ketteract, please. WHATEVER people want to call this type of food, I love the looks of it.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/08 14:41:42 (permalink)
Excellent thread Ketteract. Great pictures and great Italian finds. I appreciate you posting, Thank You! 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/09 16:27:18 (permalink)
After the Conn Grinder thread and this one, that's it, I'm moving to Connecticut! And I rarely go further north than Georgia...
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/09 19:59:03 (permalink)
OK leethebard,
 
We bought some housemade spaghetti sauce, meatballs, and long linguine from a local Italian-American deli/market (Fraboni's in Madison). Instead of bathing the pasta in the sauce, we tossed a quarter cup or so with it and put a little on top. I liked it so much better this way. The pasta had flavor, the sauce had some flavors other than tomato that came through. It was a whole new experience. Sauce on the side from now on for me.
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/09 20:55:14 (permalink)
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OK leethebard,
 
We bought some housemade spaghetti sauce, meatballs, and long linguine from a local Italian-American deli/market (Fraboni's in Madison). Instead of bathing the pasta in the sauce, we tossed a quarter cup or so with it and put a little on top. I liked it so much better this way. The pasta had flavor, the sauce had some flavors other than tomato that came through. It was a whole new experience. Sauce on the side from now on for me.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim


Jim, I'm so glad you enjoyed your pasta, Italian style.....Like I said earlier, the taste of quality pasta comes through with just the right amount of sauce. Glad you gave it a try.......And thanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 05:29:00 (permalink)
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OK leethebard,
 
We bought some housemade spaghetti sauce, meatballs, and long linguine from a local Italian-American deli/market (Fraboni's in Madison). Instead of bathing the pasta in the sauce, we tossed a quarter cup or so with it and put a little on top. I liked it so much better this way. The pasta had flavor, the sauce had some flavors other than tomato that came through. It was a whole new experience. Sauce on the side from now on for me.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim



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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 12:48:31 (permalink)
Come to think of it, at the very best pizza/hoagie shop in my hometown, pizza is usually just my appetizer.  The Italian dinners on the menu are fantastic, and usually between $10-$12 with hot bread and a salad.  The owner, Antonio, is from Napoli.
 
My pizza appetizer.

 
Who doesn't like broccoli and cavatelli?

 
Eggplant Parmesan!

 
Baked ziti.

 
And sometimes we talk the owner into making special dinners for us.  A couple weeks ago we had osso bucco.

 

on the same note, one of my usual stops in Connecticut is Nardelli's in Waterbury.  Never had a grinder there, usually sofrito in red sauce and maybe a stuffed mushroom. And every time I order they ask me if I know what it is....yes yes, it's veal hearts. :)
 
This is what my pasta dish looks like at home......

 
 
 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 12:57:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2017/04/10 13:08:39
Not enough sauce.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 13:28:08 (permalink)
All right, Joe, you've expressed your opinion. No more need to belabor your point. I think we all GET it. I'm glad you've enjoyed your meals. Now, can we cease battle or has this dispute become personal??
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 13:57:06 (permalink)
I am with Joe.  If our main course is a pasta dish, we like sauce. If it is a side dish, we light it lightly sauced.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 14:32:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chickenplucker 2017/04/10 14:38:14
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All right, Joe, you've expressed your opinion. No more need to belabor your point. I think we all GET it. I'm glad you've enjoyed your meals. Now, can we cease battle or has this dispute become personal??


what the....where you gettin that from?
 
I am totally agreeing with the OP!  Sub shop = great Italian meals!  I do the same thing, meal shopping in a sub or pizza shop.  
 
And I like sauce! So I'm not a member of the sauce police!  
 
What part of my post lead you to believe I was being a smart ass?
 
 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 14:40:08 (permalink)
I have never seen osso buco done in red sauce or served over pasta.  The accompaniment is traditionally Risotto alla Milanese and the veal shanks are braised in white wine with diced carrots, onions, very little garlic, 1-2 chopped Roma tomatoes, julienned lemon rind and fresh basil.  Gremolata gets sprinkled on top just before serving.   
 
Too much sauce on the other dishes for me. 
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 15:06:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2017/04/11 07:50:40
Now you've done it, Joe. Turn in your Sons of Italy card.
No Osso Buco for you! :)
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 15:09:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2017/04/11 07:50:42
I forgive him.  He's in Pittston, PA.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 15:51:13 (permalink)
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All right, Joe, you've expressed your opinion. No more need to belabor your point. I think we all GET it. I'm glad you've enjoyed your meals. Now, can we cease battle or has this dispute become personal??


what the....where you gettin that from?
 
I am totally agreeing with the OP!  Sub shop = great Italian meals!  I do the same thing, meal shopping in a sub or pizza shop.  
 
And I like sauce! So I'm not a member of the sauce police!  
 
What part of my post lead you to believe I was being a smart ass?
 
 


Ok. Joe, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but as far as I'm concerned the disagreement about sauce and what's really Italian, Italian American, or whatever became downright nasty and personal last week and I am determined to try and put out sparks if I think things are about to flare up again. A civil exchange of views is one thing and snarling and pointing fingers is another. You know your intentions best and I apologize again if I was but I'm going to feel free to object if I feel things are getting out of hand.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 15:57:56 (permalink)
Well said,mim!
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 15:58:41 (permalink)
With all due respect, we're having fun.
We don't need Gladys Kravitz or Aunt Bea right now. Go break up some other world crisis. Jeez Louise.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 16:04:01 (permalink)
Right............debates are fun and many times, a learning experience.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 16:18:18 (permalink)
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Well said,mim!


You're welcome. Fun is fun and I know that debates are part of these forums but when I think things are getting nasty, I shall feel just as free to express my opinion as you all do. I'm not in the habit of policing and, thankfully, I very rarely feel it's necessary. Maybe two or three times in all my years of following you all. By the way, sticks and stones may break my bones but names will not.
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Re: Italian entrees at old grocers / sandwich shops... 2017/04/10 17:21:34 (permalink)
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With all due respect, we're having fun.
We don't need Gladys Kravitz or Aunt Bea right now. Go break up some other world crisis. Jeez Louise.
Did you know that Aunt Clara was a PittstonGirl?
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