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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/10 22:07:45 (permalink)
Blakkmoon - I think you will like that height, it starts to feel natural.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 00:15:13 (permalink)
It turns out that I was a little too focused on the waste tank, and forgot to factor in my hot water tank.
I forgot that I sold the 1st one I got ( 2 gallon ), and moved up to a 7 gallon tank.
It is a fair bit larger.
Once I added that to the mix, it did not work.
Just not enough space.
 
I spent much of the day moving equipment around.
Trying different layouts/configurations.
I think I have decided what to do about the waste tank.
 
I am going to scrap the large waste tank.
I am going to mount the 30 gal tank below the truck as my grey tank in front of the rear wheel.
Then mount the 16 gal tank below the truck as my grey tank behind the rear wheel.
This one will be just for the hand wash sink.
I will use some aluminum sheeting to make a road debris shield for each tank.
 
I will use the stainless steel tank as my fresh tank and mount it vertically beside my sink.
And mount my hot water tank below the sink.
Most of the existing ports on it will work in this configuration.
I only have to make a filler port.
I have some stainless shelves that I will mount on top of the fresh tank that will serve as my dishrack.
As per our HD regs.
 
Here is a shot of my mock up.

 
The hand wash sink will get moved to the opposite side of that table and end up to the right of the water tank.
In this configuration, everything fits well, and I have very little wasted space.
 
All of the equipment shown here was stuff I pulled from the 1st truck when I gutted it.
I have a few more shelves as well.
I hope to re use those.
 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 01:13:03 (permalink)
can I see more pictures of the skylight. I would like more natural light in my rig. thanks in advance.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 08:15:15 (permalink)
Here are the only other shots of the ceiling that I have.
The ENTIRE roof is one huge translucent panel.
 

 

 
The HD said I can keep it as long as I seal the seams with caulking.
 
I even considered taking out all of the aluminum panels.
But there is insulation between the panels and the roof.
And although the light would be great, I am afraid of what it would be like with NO insulation.
 
It also makes the idea of installing a mushroom fan pretty challenging.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 11:09:17 (permalink)
Your setup looks good. It sounds like the one we settled on with two separate tanks underside, dedicated to the sink setups. My fresh tank is just behind the right wheel well. Looks like your ready to wire up and walls?
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 14:28:02 (permalink)
 
 
I have some grinding to do on the back wall. just to smooth out where I had to use the plasma cutter.
Then cleaning and buffing the front walls. I am going to leave them raw, just buff them, since they will be mostly covered by equipment.
Then another test fit so I can map out the drains.
Then the tanks and the insulation and plywood for the floor.
THEN wiring. But it's pretty much mapped out.
 
At least I have a plan. 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 14:31:34 (permalink)
And yeah, I stole your idea.   
It was a good one.

 
But first, I'm preppin and doin some smoked meatloaf. ( never done this b4 )
Gonna have smoked meatloaf grilled cheese and some roasted potatoes for din din.
 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/13 16:46:37 (permalink)
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And yeah, I stole your idea.   
It was a good one.

 
All good brother! That's why this forum rocks...we share and bounce ideas off each other and learn from those who have the knowledge. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to build a truck (as long as the HD is happy)....It's what ever works at the time, is cost affective....




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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/17 17:11:48 (permalink)
Looking good. I like that hard wood flooring look. I have two tanks under my truck and it works fine. Space inside these trucks are always a challenge, I like the trailers much more for that reason.
 
 
 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/17 23:50:09 (permalink)
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I like that hard wood flooring look.

Funny
That's just the old dirty raw aluminum floor.
 
Now that you say that, it DOES kinda have that old whitewash/barn board kinda look that everybody's wife wants for flooring this year.  
 
HD says I have to cover it though.
It has lots of seams, and rivets, and a few pieces sectioned in.
Not smooth enough for their liking.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/17 23:59:18 (permalink)
That is funny, because that's exactly what it looks like in the picture, and I thought, how cool does that look. Maybe you have a new idea to work towards.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/17 23:59:35 (permalink)
Finally started some work on the inside.
Did some much needed rewiring.
 
Then moved onto some walls.
The front walls, behind the cab.

I was going to just sheet over them, but once I saw how very little of the walls were going to be exposed, I figured it would be better to just clean them.
There were so many stickers and left over ....mmm.... pictures....  taped to walls.
Pictures of...uuhhmm ....  Laura Croft....   hockey teams  ...  women's curling teams  ......
( seriously ? )
Hey, it came with the truck . ....

TONS of old scotch tape, packing tape..... 2 way tape... spray paint...marker
It's actually ALL over the truck. Even on the sliding door.
Luckily, the other walls are getting covered.
But it was SO hard to get off.


I probably would have been better off just gluing a skin of aluminum sheet over it.
But I was determined to get it clean and just used the raw walls.
 
Cleaned it with everything possible.
Then sanded it all with 280 grit an orbital sander.
Did a polish with a buffing wheel in a test spot....
Came out really nice ....  too nice.
Actually got a mirror finish in the small test area.
But it made everything ELSE look really dull.
 
Switched to a scotch brite pad.
It gave it a nice smooth clean finish.
A dull shine.
I liked it.

 
Don't know if it shows in the pics how nice it came out.
It really just looks like a brushed aluminum or stainless steel.
post edited by Blakkmoon - 2017/05/19 00:26:42
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/18 00:05:23 (permalink)
My new food truck was almost t-boned this evening by a lady that ran a stop sign, had my life flash in front of my eyes. Still chased her down with the food truck to yell at her and to try to get her license plates. Picture came out fuzzy, going to see if the police get enhance it to track her down for a ticket. Almost lost all of that hard work in a split second. 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/18 20:18:48 (permalink)
OUCH that woulda sucked!
 
Dashcam time.
 
Guess it was hard for her to see that big monster rollin down the road!!
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/19 00:42:28 (permalink)
Once the walls were buffed, I found something else to play with.
In the back of the truck, there were aluminum covers over the tail lights. On the inside.
I guess they were there to protect the lights from shifting cargo.
But for me, they were just in the way.

 
Once removed, I figured I could re-purpose them as shelves.
Well..... after a little cleaning...

 
And decreasing, and sanding and buffing.
 
But over all please with the outcome.
 

 
That would be the nicely buffed walls and door.
You might notice that the lower portion of the walls is not buffed all shiny.
It's all going to be covered with equipment, so I figured a good cleaning was all that was needed.
Right side will be the sink, left side will be that big stainless table I got.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/20 00:54:37 (permalink)
Today I began working on the tanks.
Well sort of...
 
I had not really thought about it much, so I was engineering on the fly.... like always.
I knew I was going to use threaded rod and suspend the tanks below the floor.
I just needed to figure out HOW I wanted to make stuff.
I had these brackets that were used on the first truck. So I figured that I should try to re use them somehow.
 

 
But they were custom made for the one tank that I was not using.
So I needed to re-engineer them to work with the new tanks.
 
I start off buy cutting them down with the band saw....and I hear this loud .... PANG!!
Dang blade broke.
 
Spend an hour calling around....   Do think anyone has a blade that size???
Of course not.
 
Google is your friend.
Best method was supposed to be a torch and silver solder.
Rummage around in the garage for a while .... Lo and behold I actually have all the right stuff.
Prep the blade, fashion up a quick jig to hold it all together, and  .....
Nothing! Try 4 or 5 more times.
Flippin solder would NOT stick to the blade.
Back to google.
 
This time I find some video that say you can mig weld it.
It actually worked !
Cut all my steel.  IMPRESSED!
 
This is the design I finally settled on.

 
 
Grind all my edges clean.
Start welding a few things together.
Dang.... that's a fine weld sir...
 

 
Get about 2 welds done .....  and  ... nothin .....WTF!!!
 
It's now 2 pm on a Friday before a long weekend.
I run out of welding gas.   F F S !!!
 
And my supplier is on the OTHER side of town 45 minutes away, and they close at 5.
Needless to say, no further works got done today.
But I got my gas.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/20 11:28:05 (permalink)
Blakkmoon
 
Dang.... that's a fine weld sir...
 

 
 


You think so?? How many fab shop guys can do this well???? If the food is as good, it will be worth a trip!!!
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/20 12:28:21 (permalink)
Thanks....they don't don't look that pretty once the gas runs out 
 
Gas and a nice welder help ALOT.
I do OK for an old hack, with no training or real experience.
Enough to get by for my stuff anyway.
post edited by Blakkmoon - 2017/05/20 12:48:43
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/21 23:49:09 (permalink)
Two goals here.
1 - Build support brackets for the water tanks.
2 - Do it cheap, re-using stuff I already had.
 
I cut apart the old tank supports that came out of the old truck when I pulled the tank.
Then combined them with some old angle iron that I had kicking around.
On the smaller tank I used lighter angle iron that was actually an old bed frame.
 
This is bottom framework welded together.
I wanted support on all 4 sides, but I needed spaces for the drain.
Still not sure if I am putting the drain on the side of the box or the bottom.

 
 
I added a layer of stainless steel to protect the bottom of the tank.

 
 
Then I bent up a sheet of aluminum to go around the tank to protect the sides.

 
 
I made the steel about 6 inches longer than the tank to allow for the threaded rod.

 
 
I was still concerned about the top edges getting damaged or squished.
So I welded up another section for the top.

 
 
I think that should hold everything in place and protect the tank.
I won't do the drains until I put in the floor and test fit everything again so I know exactly where I want them.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/23 03:30:37 (permalink)
Really nice job repurposing the stuff you had laying around Blakkmoon! Truck is really taking shape and looking great.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/23 10:25:59 (permalink)
Anybody ever try this product?
It seems to be a pretty darn good degreaser.
I get it at Dollarama for a buck.
Super impressed.
Heck they even sell a refill bottle without the sprayer, for the same price.
I think it does 2 or 3 refils.
Orange All Purpose Degreaser.

 
About the only thing about it is that there seems to be NO pretty orange smell.
In fact side by side with my ZEP Fast 505 industrial strength degreaser
 

 
I could not tell the difference.
It smells just as bad.
But works just as good.
 
Spray it on, let it sit a bit, and it eats away the 20 year old grease build up that was crusted on some of my stainless shelves that I pulled out of the old truck.
I love Zep products, but at 6$ or $7 a bottle....
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 00:26:00 (permalink)
Didn't get much done on the truck in the last week.
Was pretty busy with other stuff.
 
Got the garage cleaned up a bit.
Got a bunch of stuff moved around.
 
Yesterday I cleaned out the truck.  Power washed the inside.

Today I got the floor insulation glued down.
 
Why do these things always take so much longer than you think they will??

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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 01:28:03 (permalink)
Blakkmoon!
 
Where in the world have you been Dude? I was so worried when this place went silent for a week! The scenerios that went through my head as day after day no body was posting anything! Usually you are Mr Chatterbox and then you and all the others went silent on me. Worried that the "over priced dont do it yourself mafia" had silenced you.
 
Anyways, as always, your work looks fantastic.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 08:49:29 (permalink)
uuhhh.....  thanks ...  i think .... 
 
Didn't realize I was a chatterbox.....
 
I have just learned so much from everyone else here, I thought it was only right to share my own stuff in the hopes that it helps someone else.
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 09:38:57 (permalink)
Uh Oh, guess I worded that wrong, you are always a wonderful source of great ideas and great examples of workmanship. Always eager to share your build as you go. Your attention to detail in your explanations are most enjoyable.
 
I missed reading your posts was all I was saying. 
 
I will shut up now.
 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 18:07:34 (permalink)
You are too funny!!
I'm too old to be a snowflake.
So I'm not offended.
 
Yup, I can see my old man commin out in me.
On and on and on.   Too much detail. 
 
I often find that too many posts have not enough explanation.
I am left wondering.... well .... how did you arrive at THAT?
 
No worries my friend .... all in stride...
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 18:17:00 (permalink)
Just found a great buy on a scratch n dent clearance sale.
Got these boxes for $50 a pop.
Regular price is a couple hundred.
They will make great cupboards once I put a hydraulic strut on them.
4 feet long, by 18 inch by 17 inch.
With locks and keys.
I can't make em like this for $50.
Bought 4.
 

 
 
 
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/05/30 23:05:31 (permalink)
Nice find!
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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/06/05 21:35:58 (permalink)
Actually achieved more than one thing today.
I got all the wood cut, painted with fire proof paint, and installed.
 

 
Then, instead of watching the paint dry, I went up top and scrubbed the roof clean.
Here is a shot of the difference in color.
The reddish splotch is the cleaner.
I tried a few different kinds.
Every time I poured it on the roof, it turned red.
 

 
In case anyone wants to know, this is the stuff I used in the paint.
It's a crystal/powder.
Mix it in latex paint. ( I used killz primer )
Supposed to give it a class A fire rating.
I coated both sides and all the edges.
 

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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux .... 2017/06/07 18:17:33 (permalink)
I remember roof cleaning...days. Instead of cleaning it was scraping off a layer of very loose old spay can paint, hours of d/a sanding, then re-sealing all the seams. Then rust holes repaired, more sanding, followed by three coats of white paint. You got it easy!! I'll never buy a steel body step van again..... Looks nice, big difference in before & after.
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