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2019/05/03 09:22:24 (permalink)

New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years

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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 11:54:01 (permalink)
At one time they had a national reputation.
 
My late grandfather was editor of a paper that folded into the present day Worcester Telegram and Gazette. In his day, the morning paper and the evening paper, even though under the same ownership, always tried to "scoop" each other, and each paper had a "state" and "final" edition. Putting out an "Extra" was always exciting. Delivering the paper was a great first job.
 
Today our local paper has a few local reporters and opinion writers. A bunch of part timers, write, as I understand, for very little money. The fairly new printing plant was sold in the last shake up, and now the paper is put together in Texas, and sent via the internet to a local contract printing plant. News that happens after noon or so seldom shows up in the next day paper. It is thin and costs several dollars a copy. At least the paper is still put out every day, and I will continue to support it. 
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 12:50:01 (permalink)
I get 7 days home delivery of the Advocate and it's always a plump packet. This morning I got my renewal notice, and I happily hit the re-subscribe button. Many Times-Pic journos will be hired for the new concern. Many will not. It'll be interesting to see how the whole affair shakes out over the next 60 days.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 14:27:08 (permalink)
Sad, sad when another paper ceases publication. Reading online is just not the same thing!
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 16:18:54 (permalink)
I still look at the website from time to time but the morning paper in the backyard with a hot mug of coffee is my favorite way to start the day.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 17:20:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby MilwFoodlovers 2019/05/09 19:42:23
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I still look at the website from time to time but the morning paper in the backyard with a hot mug of coffee is my favorite way to start the day.


I agree, but even folks of my generation are moving away from the paper. My daughters don't read one at all. A local talk show host/journalist recently presented a lecture at a "name" school of journalism. He asked how many wanted to work for a newspaper, and most raised their hands. He asked who read a paper at least 4 days a week. He expected 1/2 the class, but NONE were regular readers.
 
With all the talk of "fake news", I'm surprised that folks don't read MORE, to dig out the truth.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 17:54:40 (permalink)
When I was a kid on the Coast the Times-Picayune was everyone's paper of choice. Sad to see it go the way of the dinosaurs, but that's just the way things are headed. Couldn't tell you the last time I picked up a newspaper and read it. More than a decade, certainly. Wish they could have adjusted and kept up with the times. I'll miss them!
 
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/03 21:26:27 (permalink)
We'll all miss the Times-Pic. Had they been owned by a local entity they would most likely
still be a concern. It's tough to run a New Orleans business and be based in Jersey.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/05 18:59:54 (permalink)
When a local newspaper transfers control to an out-of-area entity the results are rarely good.  Fortunately the Wisconsin State Journal is still based in Madison, and the best weekly around is the independently owned Edgerton Reporter.  If my real job ever goes away I just might dust off my writing skills and see if they have a place for me, although they shut down the darkroom a number of years back.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/06 17:19:10 (permalink)
Advocate's owner claims he's going to keep the Times-Picayune marque but I doubt it.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/14 09:48:39 (permalink)
ScreamingChicken................  If my real job ever goes away I just might dust off my writing skills and see if they have a place for me, although they shut down the darkroom a number of years back.


My darkroom skills are long unused.................another one of my skills that is no longer valued by society. I was one of the best. My writing skills, which are barely adequate, remain in demand, albeit at low/no pay. At my age, I may have managed a newspaper career, had I wanted one, but like so many of my peers, it would have ended with early retirement. Were I 21 today, with the skills that I had at 21, I wonder what career I would choose. One thing is for sure, as an arts guy with zero math skills, I'd have a lot harder time than in my day.  One thing remains the same.................2 1/2 years as a full time Marine, after college, was, and is, a great, first, post college, "job".
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/14 13:31:59 (permalink)
My daughter mentioned a few weeks ago that she might consider journalism as a college degree. We carefully explained to her that that would not be a good idea and would really be a waste of time and money. There are many other careers to try for. That's not one I want to see her pursue. I have all too many friends and acquaintances that were in the industry who are now unemployed. No sense in studying for a career that no longer exists.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/14 19:46:01 (permalink)
That's what parents are for; issuing advice that draws on years of experience. Good call. I have many friends in the industry and they all live with persistent fear.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/15 09:38:03 (permalink)
Took a peek at Times-Pic's website and noted that they have an article that's 15 days old on the front page.
They had touted a "digital first" strategy when they laid off over 200 workers.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/16 16:23:20 (permalink)
We used to look down our nose at "advertisers" (local free papers that were mostly ads, and the "copy" was softball features about the advertisers). Writers had to sell ads to keep their jobs and they all longed for jobs on a "real" paper. I never actually worked for one , but I often developed badly exposed film for them, and rushed pictures to the printing plant. "Barny the butcher"  may not have been news, but if he was willing to buy an ad, he was. "you eat what you kill" is now the norm. When was the last time a smart, 35ish, journalist was given a month to work on a story that was "important" to them? My local daily, which I complained about earlier in this thread, now runs lots of stories that previously ran in their other local/regional/weekly papers. Cheap copy and lower overhead is the new norm. It is just as bad on the internet............that's why there is so much "click bait". A few lucky/pushy/skilled internet "reporters" become stars, but most wait tables.
 
I'm sure that I'm not the first to realize it, but to write something that gets you a guest spot on CNN, Fox, or MSNBC, may be the best way to get noticed. Some become semi regulars. I wonder if THAT pays? I got a few radio guest spots over the years, based on something that I had written. NONE of them paid so much as $5, and I had to pay for the phone call to call in. (Remember when long distance costed money?)
 
I too, as a parent, discouraged journalism. None of my girls wish that they had ignored my advice.
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Re: New Orleans Times-Picayune reaches the end of the road after 182 years 2019/05/16 16:33:14 (permalink)
Roughly 7 years ago one of the Times-Pic's best feature writers took an early retirement. He had written one article per week for most of his career. The Advance people sat him down and told him he'd need to amp it up to 5-7 articles per week if he wanted to keep his job.
 
Until recently some of the junior writers at Times-Pic were writing well above that pace.
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