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2017/01/06 15:30:56 (permalink)

Not really where, but what?

I'm heading overseas again for business and am wondering about "must eats" at my stops.

Besides waffles and beer, is Belgium famous for any certain foods?

I know sushi, sake, noodles & KFC are the big 4 in Japan. Anything else I need to try there that doesn't include fish?
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 15:44:33 (permalink)
Not to just post a link to Wikipedia, but...
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_cuisine
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 16:01:50 (permalink)
Mussels in Brussels!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 16:08:33 (permalink)
Which countries will you be in? I assume Belgium & Japan?? Any others? How long will you be there?
If you're in Europe you can visit a number of countries without traveling too far. Great rail systems to get around.
 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 16:32:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2017/01/06 19:16:34
Lots of foods in Japan that don't include fish, but some of the best meals you'll have DO include fish. Where willyou be in Japan? Lots of regional specialties. My favourites would have to be Okonomiyaki ( a pancake like dish with different ingredients topped with a sauce, Japanese mayo and other goodies), Tonkatsu ( a fried pork filet ), Katsudon (pork filet with egg on rice), Curry (Japanese curry is different than Indian and oh, so yummy) available with various meats, various Soba's and ramen (definitely hit up a decent ramen shop. It'll change your world), Yakitori ( a chicken skewer appetiser that is killer). I could think of many more, but it's hard to find bad food in Japan.
 
My wife travels to Brussels every now and then. She really likes the beer and their frites are better than anywhere else. Lots of pork dishes, according to her.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 16:41:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2017/01/06 19:16:53
FRITES !!!!!!   
CHICON AU GRATIN!  Belgian endives wrapped with sliced ham, in a béchamel sauce, topped with Swiss cheese.  I make this at home..........we love it! 
BOUDIN BLANC!  A very mild sausage made with veal and chicken. 
CARBONNADE FLAMANDE!  Think Boeuf Bourguignon, but made with dark Belgian beer. 
WATERZOOI!  A rich creamy stew that can be made with seafood or chicken. 
BELGIAN CHOCOLATE!  Go to Leonidas  (locations all over Belgium) and get a few pralinés (not even close to our American pralines) or some truffles! 
 
Think I like Belgian food??!! 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 18:12:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2017/01/06 19:17:00
Be sure to have a (or several) Chimay Grande Réserve for me! 
 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 18:35:02 (permalink)
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Be sure to have a (or several) Chimay Grande Réserve for me! 
 


Agreed...I love them all! My fave.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 19:08:13 (permalink)
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Mussels in Brussels!



Not to be confused with "The Muscles from Brussels
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 19:30:46 (permalink)
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Lots of foods in Japan that don't include fish, but some of the best meals you'll have DO include fish. Where willyou be in Japan? Lots of regional specialties. My favourites would have to be Okonomiyaki ( a pancake like dish with different ingredients topped with a sauce, Japanese mayo and other goodies), Tonkatsu ( a fried pork filet ), Katsudon (pork filet with egg on rice), Curry (Japanese curry is different than Indian and oh, so yummy) available with various meats, various Soba's and ramen (definitely hit up a decent ramen shop. It'll change your world), Yakitori ( a chicken skewer appetiser that is killer). I could think of many more, but it's hard to find bad food in Japan.
 
My wife travels to Brussels every now and then. She really likes the beer and their frites are better than anywhere else. Lots of pork dishes, according to her.


Root Beer Man,
 
I'll be near Sapporo (in Muroran) for 2 weeks. Our resident inspector says his main meal is the U.S. style breakfast at the hotel. There are several confectioneries near the hotel and a KFC around the corner. He's lost a lot of weight.
 
Jim
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 19:35:18 (permalink)
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FRITES !!!!!!   
CHICON AU GRATIN!  Belgian endives wrapped with sliced ham, in a béchamel sauce, topped with Swiss cheese.  I make this at home..........we love it! 
BOUDIN BLANC!  A very mild sausage made with veal and chicken. 
CARBONNADE FLAMANDE!  Think Boeuf Bourguignon, but made with dark Belgian beer. 
WATERZOOI!  A rich creamy stew that can be made with seafood or chicken. 
BELGIAN CHOCOLATE!  Go to Leonidas  (locations all over Belgium) and get a few pralinés (not even close to our American pralines) or some truffles! 
 
Think I like Belgian food??!! 


Thanks Lisa.
 
I'll be staying in Mons a couple nights and don't want to miss the good stuff.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:16:23 (permalink)
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FRITES !!!!!!   
CHICON AU GRATIN!  Belgian endives wrapped with sliced ham, in a béchamel sauce, topped with Swiss cheese.  I make this at home..........we love it! 
BOUDIN BLANC!  A very mild sausage made with veal and chicken. 
CARBONNADE FLAMANDE!  Think Boeuf Bourguignon, but made with dark Belgian beer. 
WATERZOOI!  A rich creamy stew that can be made with seafood or chicken. 
BELGIAN CHOCOLATE!  Go to Leonidas  (locations all over Belgium) and get a few pralinés (not even close to our American pralines) or some truffles! 
 
Think I like Belgian food??!! 


Thanks Lisa.
 
I'll be staying in Mons a couple nights and don't want to miss the good stuff.


OH!  Mons!  You just stuck a knife into my heart!  We used to go to Mons every Sunday to have a couple of Chimays, frites with sauce Americaine, sausages, mussels..........you're going to love Mons!  Be careful of the road signs.........Mons is BERGEN in Flemish.  It gets very confusing. 
 
Enjoy sitting in La Grande Place with your beer and Belgian food!  Verrrrrrrrrry jealous! 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:24:42 (permalink)
Thanks Jim. Now that she's angry with you I get a break.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:33:34 (permalink)
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Thanks Jim. Now that she's angry with you I get a break.


You are sooooooooo not off the hook!  I want to go to Mons!!!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:34:27 (permalink)
Making women angry at me is a gift I have, Michael.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:44:51 (permalink)
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Thanks Jim. Now that she's angry with you I get a break.


You are sooooooooo not off the hook!  I want to go to Mons!!!




Not Mars?
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:51:14 (permalink)
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Thanks Jim. Now that she's angry with you I get a break.


You are sooooooooo not off the hook!  I want to go to Mons!!!




Not Mars?


You means Mars, PA........where a pie-loving Roadfooder lives?  Here?  With flying saucers?  NO WAY!  I want to eat Belgian food!!!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/06 20:55:16 (permalink)
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Lots of foods in Japan that don't include fish, but some of the best meals you'll have DO include fish. Where willyou be in Japan? Lots of regional specialties. My favourites would have to be Okonomiyaki ( a pancake like dish with different ingredients topped with a sauce, Japanese mayo and other goodies), Tonkatsu ( a fried pork filet ), Katsudon (pork filet with egg on rice), Curry (Japanese curry is different than Indian and oh, so yummy) available with various meats, various Soba's and ramen (definitely hit up a decent ramen shop. It'll change your world), Yakitori ( a chicken skewer appetiser that is killer). I could think of many more, but it's hard to find bad food in Japan.
 
My wife travels to Brussels every now and then. She really likes the beer and their frites are better than anywhere else. Lots of pork dishes, according to her.


Root Beer Man,
 
I'll be near Sapporo (in Muroran) for 2 weeks. Our resident inspector says his main meal is the U.S. style breakfast at the hotel. There are several confectioneries near the hotel and a KFC around the corner. He's lost a lot of weight.
 
Jim


While I'm more familiar with the southern island and Osaka/Kobe region, I can say that Sapporo is renowned for it's style of miso ramen. Should have access to sushi, too. And other seafoods. Would be surprised if you couldn't find a curry, either. Here's some suggestions from an episode of Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations". I saw that episode and all the food looked righteous. It's a food trail I'd follow. Here's a written guide to the places he went. If you can find the whole episode you can see for yourself. My guess is you won't lack for places to to eat, regardless. It's a big city. Your colleague must be really picky.
 
http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/anthony-bourdain/travel-guides/japan-travel-guide
 
 

 
 
PS: In Belgium my wife recommends Carbonnade and Stoemp. National dishes of Belgium. Carbonnade is apparently beer braised beef and Stoemp is mashed potatoes with other veg in them.
post edited by Root-Beer Man - 2017/01/06 21:01:18
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/07 05:42:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby JRPfeff 2017/01/07 07:14:05
Some general suggestions:
 
I'd not follow your KFC fan /American Breakfast friend around.  (The most disappointing meal of the day is usually an American Breakfast in Asia).  Get to know and eat with some of the local people at the company your at, let them take you to their favorite spots, and don't let them try and take you to somewhere they think you may like.  
The first thing I tell folks when I'm on the road is I want to try what you normally eat, I've had some fantastic meals that way.  Also let them point you to some areas where you can explore on your own....and for heavens sake stay away from the KFC, your half way around the world with a chance to take in foods you may never have a chance to try again, why on earth frequent American fast food...now having said that one visit to try some of the local unique items might be fun....but do yourself a favor and don't make it a regular stop.
Speaking from 40 years of traveling and living in Asia...have a great trip, don't be the ugly American and above all frequent local joints, put your ego in your pocket and let the locals be your guide.
 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/07 10:34:22 (permalink)
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Mussels in Brussels!




Sure. 
That's where Jean Claude Van Damme is from.
In fact, that was his nickname - the mussels muscles from Brussels!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/07 10:36:22 (permalink)
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Mussels in Brussels!



Not to be confused with "The Muscles from Brussels




Ah, you beat me to it!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/07 10:49:14 (permalink)
Belgium also is known for excellent charcuterie; nothing is finer than a varied plate of such accompanied by beer, baguette, butter, & pickles.  Also, ask for Sauce Béarnaise to go with your frites.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/07 12:43:58 (permalink)
We used to have a Belgian restaurant near me, and besides the mussels mentioned already, they served what was listed on the menu as a Belgian beef stew made with a dark amber that was delicious (what lleechef mentions as Carbonnade Flamande?) the chef/waiter made a point of telling me not to expect the same as an American beef stew, which it wasn't, very tasty.  They also served fondue, but only for orders from two or more diners.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 12:20:27 (permalink)
Don't forget, the Belgians also make great cheese.  Especially the monks at the abbeys like Chimay, Maredsous, Orval, Floreffe and Val Dieu. 
 
And you must, must, must have a Rochefort 10!
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 12:23:20 (permalink)
I may have to reevaluate my January alcohol abstention vow.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 12:31:47 (permalink)
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I may have to reevaluate my January alcohol abstention vow.

Who abstains in January???  Was that a New Years resolution?  Listen to me.......you cannot go to Belgium and not drink EXCELLENT BEER!  In my opinion, it's the best beer on the planet.  Our dear departed Roadfood friend, Poverty Pete thought so too.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 12:43:46 (permalink)
I know many who share your opinion of their beer. My first exposure to it was actually in Crafton, PA.

I'm trying to dry out before our cruise at month's end (unlimited beverage package awaits). Although a little in moderation won't hurt...
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 13:04:50 (permalink)
The late great Julia Child one quipped something to this effect, "I had a friend who went on a diet and insisted on eating a can of tuna fish every day and died of mercury poisoning!  Everything in moderation!"
 
Have fun on the cruise.  But you're gonna LOVE Mons!!!!!!!  And yes, I'm still jealous!!!!! 
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 14:52:48 (permalink)
My very favorite food in Japan was kitsune soba.
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Re: Not really where, but what? 2017/01/09 15:18:21 (permalink)
rumaki,

I looked that up & think I'd like it.

Jim
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