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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 18:53:19 (permalink)
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Find me an ideal city with no crime, no poverty, no urban decay and let's go there....
 

So that counts as one vote for Pittston.

A couple more votes and I'm going to start selling it big time!!!
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 19:04:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby nagle 2017/07/14 05:19:05
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My one vote goes for Detroit.
 
Final answer...!

Buddy left Ann Arbor off of his rundown of Detroit area stops. It is worthy of a significant amount of time.

You're absolutely right!  Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti are a short drive from Detroit and definitely warrant a day of exploration.
 
On a side note, my investigation into vote tampering on the Doodle Poll turned up no evidence of weaseliness.  It appears to be wholly legit and accurate.  Therefore, unless we get anymore votes from interested parties, it looks like April 26-29 are the dates of next year's Crawl.  I'll leave it to our impartial Canadian friend to decide whether or nor to close the voting.
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 19:04:16 (permalink)
The below story will seriously hurt Springfield's chances, but you never know!
 
http://www.sj-r.com/news/20170504/norb-andys-closed-indefinitely-building-for-lease
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 19:18:38 (permalink)
I stand corrected on my assessment of the Doodle Poll.  One person contacted me just now to indicate someone had changed their votes.  After fixing the tampered entries, we show 100% attendance for the April 26-29 weekend.  If that doesn't reflect your vote please make the correction so we can make an accurate decision.
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 20:31:14 (permalink)
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Anyone interested in looking into Savannah for this crawl? Or Charleston? Not to be a snob, especially since I know how much Buddy loves the city, but it doesn't seem to me that Springfield is a city I would like to spend four or five days. 
 
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I already spent five days in Springfield, IL at a rally and I still didn't get to all the Lincoln stuff nor have a breaded pork tenderloin sandwich. 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/13 22:33:14 (permalink)
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All you Springfield/Detroit detractors, go ahead and have your fun.  When I was growing up, Cleveland and Pittsburgh were the butt of every stand up comedian's jokes.  And now we've had one of our best Crawls ever in one, and are looking hard at a near future visit to the other.
 
CTD's comment about staying home in Chicago if he wants to see a gun fight is very telling.  If in fact everyone took the reports of Chicago's violence at face value, we'd have no tourists here at all.  The fact of the matter is, we live in one of the best cities in the world, and millions of tourists come here every year to appreciate it.  It isn't without problems and faults, but that is the nature of life.  Find me an ideal city with no crime, no poverty, no urban decay and let's go there.  It doesn't exist.  And if it did, it would be stone cold boring.
 
We just completed a highly praised tour of Kansas City.  A recent list in The Wall street Journal naming the Worst Cities in America included KC, along with many other places either under consideration for a Crawl, or places we've already visited, including St. Louis, Cleveland, Memphis, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, and yes, Detroit.  Remember folks, we're not asking you to move to these places, just visit for a few days; experiencing a carefully selected slice of their local culture that meets the interest level of Roadfooders.
 
Let me also address Davidsanders observation about Springfield not being a city where we would like to spend four or five days.  If you'll recall, the Cincinnati Chili Crawl was officially just a one day event on a Saturday.  Thanks to CTD's diligence and Spreadsheet, we added an unofficial day on Friday with a welcome dinner Thursday night and a farewell breakfast on Sunday.  It wasn't until the next year that we added Friday as part of the "official" Crawl, and it wasn't until Pittsburgh that it became a Thursday through Saturday event, plus Sunday farewell brunch.
 
My point is, there's no written rule stating how long the Crawl should run.  The schedule should fit the offerings of each city.  We could have easily added a day in KC and Pittsburgh.  Another Chicago Crawl could last a week or more.  Some other cities might only warrant a couple of days.
 
I'm really sorry if I sound defensive. It's just difficult to accept when folks prejudge a place based on limited information.  To me, the spirit of Roadfood includes exploration, adventure, and open mindedness.  In most urban areas that means you're going to encounter some unpleasantness.  Maybe you don't recall but, we drove through some pretty crappy areas in Pittsburgh on our way to some really good Roadfood.
 
It's not that I'm pushing hard for Springfield or Detroit; I'll be happy wherever we go.  I just don't want to see any place automatically eliminated because of incomplete preconceived notions.
 
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I'm not against going to Springfield, I had just thought that a number of other cities would be more interesting. I actually thought that St. Louis would work well, with one day or possibly part of a second day in Springfield. But I'm okay with Detroit/Ann Arbor as well...... or Cleveland.

By the way, have you seen this?



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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/14 00:04:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2017/07/14 08:00:34
I sometimes get the feeling that's exactly what ChiTownDiner is thinking when he looks at me a little too long.
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/14 05:22:03 (permalink)
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My one vote goes for Detroit.

Final answer...!

Buddy left Ann Arbor off of his rundown of Detroit area stops. It is worthy of a significant amount of time.

You're absolutely right!  Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti are a short drive from Detroit and definitely warrant a day of exploration.
 
On a side note, my investigation into vote tampering on the Doodle Poll turned up no evidence of weaseliness.  It appears to be wholly legit and accurate.  Therefore, unless we get anymore votes from interested parties, it looks like April 26-29 are the dates of next year's Crawl.  I'll leave it to our impartial Canadian friend to decide whether or nor to close the voting.
 
Buddy


As the somewhat impartial Canadian, I will now head to the Doodle (that makes me laugh every time) site and close the voting. April 26-29, 2018 it is.
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/14 14:04:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby nagle 2017/07/14 21:02:47
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As the somewhat impartial Canadian, I will now head to the Doodle (that makes me laugh every time)...



I have the same reaction whenever we talk about our travels in Ireland and our driving tour around the Dingle Peninsula.
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/14 15:23:11 (permalink)
I kinda vote for Detroit....my home town. IF I can pull it off...and my parents met at Ann Arbor.
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/14 17:45:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby joerogo 2017/07/15 07:42:54
WWJD?
 
 
 
What Would Jashim Do? 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 13:17:45 (permalink)
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 13:56:32 (permalink)
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All of this while surrounded by an overload of Route 66 memorabilia.
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Shea’s Gas Station Museum, another Route 66 landmark.

Also, for those interested in exploring The Mother Road the trip from downtown Chicago or any point westward to Springfield would be a great opportunity (I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread but am too lazy to check right now) to do so.
 
If Springfield is chosen and the schedule works out so that Sunday is departure day, I suggest the Sunday chicken dinner at The Palms Grill Cafe and a visit to the museum next door in Atlanta, IL for those heading back toward Bloomington.
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 14:04:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2017/07/16 21:45:56
I have a friend (shocking to some, I know) in the Cleveland area who is a serious eater and could help me do some leg work if we choose to go there. With Buddy having intimate knowledge of the city as well, I think that could be a real winner.
 
Nashville has hot chicken/barbecue/biscuits/other southern delicacies without an insanely-long drive for most people. I think that would be great as well.
 
Same with MSP for its variety of foods, and I could envision hooking up along the way for some Iowa BPT stops.
 
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 14:12:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abe_froeman 2017/07/18 09:24:38
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All of this while surrounded by an overload of Route 66 memorabilia.
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Shea’s Gas Station Museum, another Route 66 landmark.

Also, for those interested in exploring The Mother Road the trip from downtown Chicago or any point westward to Springfield would be a great opportunity (I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread but am too lazy to check right now) to do so.
 
If Springfield is chosen and the schedule works out so that Sunday is departure day, I suggest the Sunday chicken dinner at The Palms Grill Cafe and a visit to the museum next door in Atlanta, IL for those heading back toward Bloomington.


Here's a curve ball, Crawl the Mother Road. Maybe not in 2018, but is a crawling crawl a possibility? Start at one point and stop at several locations, changing hotels each night along the route (or Root for our neighbours to the North). 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 14:25:26 (permalink)
It sounds pretty good but could be very time-consuming.  By modern standards 66 isn't designed for people looking to cover a lot of ground, and from what I've read online to do it right could take 3 or 4 days just to get from Chicago to the St. Louis area and back.  A week ago I drove the 1926-1930 alignment from Bloomington to Edwardsville and only made a couple of stops, and it took much longer than the same trip via I-55.
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 18:26:56 (permalink)
We did the Chicago to St. Louis run about 25 years ago.  Took us five days to get to St. Looey on 66, and five hours to get back home on the interstate.  Still, not a bad idea as long as we set our expectations accordingly.
 
Just this past spring, on our way to the Kansas City Crawl, we made a stop in Funks Grove with Pie Diva, nagle, and Wawa Mama.  It was a pleasant diversion.  Lots of those if you want to take the time to do the exploration.
 
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Re: Spring 2018 Roadfood Crawl 2017/07/16 21:46:14 (permalink)
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I have a friend (shocking to some, I know) in the Cleveland area who is a serious eater and could help me do some leg work if we choose to go there. With Buddy having intimate knowledge of the city as well, I think that could be a real winner.
 
Nashville has hot chicken/barbecue/biscuits/other southern delicacies without an insanely-long drive for most people. I think that would be great as well.
 
Same with MSP for its variety of foods, and I could envision hooking up along the way for some Iowa BPT stops.
 
 




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