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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/04/02 14:13:59 (permalink)
We lost another one.
 
I just wrote about them in post #385, but sadly Karl Ratzsch has announced their closing.

Carol Deptolla at JSOnline reports:
Karl Ratzsch, a longtime fixture of Milwaukee's dining culture, has closed less than a year after it was re-opened, chef-owner Thomas Hauck said Sunday.
 
It was one of the few remaining Milwaukee restaurants emblematic of the city's German heritage.
 
"It was my greatest hope that I could take this restaurant into the future and take it to a new generation, without it being lost," Hauck said in a news release. "Unfortunately due to many factors, I am no longer able to sustain keeping Karl Ratzsch open.”
 
“We put everything we had into this dream and it is with a heavy heart I have to let this go," he said.
This is very sad, and a reminder to eat at these restaurants while they remain in business.
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/04/02 14:55:21 (permalink)
While I never ate there, hopefully Ratzch's recipes will find their way onto the menus of other restaurants.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/04/02 15:12:10 (permalink)
Here is another opportunity to eat at a good price at a restaurant in a Duncan Hines' recommended location. Bacchus is in the space that once housed the Hines recommended Fleur de Lis and remains an outstanding restaurant. On April 28 you will have the opportunity to purchase a $100 dining certificate for $50 through the Mark Belling Dining Club. The certificates go fast, usually selling out within 1 minute.
 
With the closing of Karl Ratzsch, and promotional discounts at Bacchus and Heaven City, I am starting to have worries about the future of fine dining in the Milwaukee area.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/04/02 23:04:56 (permalink)
Mark Belling Dining Club??????? But I don't like crow.
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 15:45:52 (permalink)
Lovett's by Lafayette Brook in Franconia, New Hampshire, which began in 1928, is still around.  Duncan Hines said in his 1941 guidebook that it was "a colonial type of dining room."  He said their specialties are "steak, chops, chicken a la king, and fresh crisp salads."  From just looking over the menu, it seems that things haven't changed too much.
 
http://www.lovettsinn.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 16:04:09 (permalink)
Lamie's Tavern, now known as Lamie's Inn and Old Salt Tavern, in Hampton, New Hampshire, has been serving travelers since 1740, and is one of the oldest Duncan Hines recommended restaurants still in existence.  Hines said of it in his guidebook, "You'll want to stop here for steak. Also roast stuffed turkey and chicken and fresh seafood."  If you look over the menu, things haven't changed at all, except for the price, of course.
 
http://www.oldsaltnh.com/lamies-inn/
 
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 16:14:39 (permalink)
After all these years, people are still coming to the Hanover Inn at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire.  Duncan Hines said in his guidebook that it was, "On the village green which forms the beautiful campus of Dartmouth College.  Exceptionally good and well served meals.  A favorite place.  Especially noteworthy is the buffet supper on Sunday night which always includes New England codfish cakes."  Those Sunday night buffet dinners might still be going on.  You'll have to come and find out.
 
http://www.hanoverinn.com/#gref
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 16:38:05 (permalink)
The Loch Lyme Lodge in Lyme, New Hampshire, built in 1784, remains pretty much the same as it was when it was written up in Duncan Hines's restaurant guide in 1941.  The lodge's restaurant is still offering meals to hungry travelers.  In this edition of "Adventures in Good Eating, Duncan Hines described it as "a low, rambling white house on the shore of a pretty little lake, with small cottages on the hill at the back for those who wish a vacation in simple surroundings. . . . Meals are very good with plenty of fresh vegetables and eggs and rich milk and cream."  A sample menu on the inn's website gives one an idea of what might be in store for the traveler.
 
http://lochlymelodge.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 16:47:09 (permalink)
Great stuff Louis, from my Mom's home state...Thanks!
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 17:15:15 (permalink)
The Mountain View House in Whitefield, New Hampshire is still the luxurious resort that it was when Duncan Hines visited here.  Accepting visitors since 1866, the resort is the last word in luxury.  Duncan Hines described it as "a grand hotel in the White mountains.  Good food, wonderful views, and various sports available.  Not cheap."  Not cheap is understatement.  One look at the menu at three restaurants at this resort, and you'll say the same thing."
 
http://www.mountainviewgrand.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 17:31:27 (permalink)
Duncan Hines said that the Spalding Inn in Whitefield, New Hampshire, was "in the midst of the White Mountains, sixty of the most famous peaks of which are visible from the windows of the inn.  An excellent place to stay.  New England dishes are emphasized on the menu."
 
Although this place does not have a website (that I can find), I think it is still around.  Yelp says that the restaurant is closed, but they are still taking reservations.  So I don't know if a restaurant is still operating there or not.  Investigation is needed in this case.  Here is a picture of it.
 
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x4cb472caa5e55a33:0x8bf59dc960a35426!2m19!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m13!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/spalding%2Binn%2Bwhitefield%2Bnew%2Bhampshire/@44.3962782,-71.5793212,3a,75y,206.35h,90t/data%3D*213m4*211e1*213m2*211sa4yF7xYvDBiMvUN4x92qDQ*212e0*214m2*213m1*211s0x4cb472caa5e55a33:0x8bf59dc960a35426!5sspalding+inn+whitefield+new+hampshire+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e2!2sa4yF7xYvDBiMvUN4x92qDQ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzOr4iqDUAhVBzoMKHfeNBBUQpx8IfjAK
 
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/02 22:21:19 (permalink)
Thank you for the new posts Louis.
 
I have updated the lists at the start of the thread with all of your entries. I'll eventually add the links.
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/14 12:40:43 (permalink)
The Claridge Hotel is still operating in Atlantic City, New Jersey.  The hotel now has three restaurants to choose from instead of one, with The Twenties American Bistro being the dominant one.  Duncan Hines said that it had "excellent seafood, chicken and other good things served in delightful atmosphere."
 
http://claridge.com/the-twenties-restaurant-atlantic-city/
 
 
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/14 13:12:29 (permalink)
The Long Valley Inn in Long Valley, New Jersey is now part of a small "restaurant village."  Duncan Hines said that it was a "country hotel dining room, specializing in steaks and chicken.'  It is still serving steaks and chicken and much more.  It looks like a nice place to dine.  I don't think Duncan Hines would mind going in here again.
 
http://restaurantvillageatlongvalley.com/long-valley-pub-and-brewery/menus/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/14 13:18:50 (permalink)
Buttonwood Manor in Matawan, New Jersey is no longer a restaurant, but like many other former Duncan Hines recommended restaurants, they do offer catering for weddings and special occasions.  The exterior and interior of the place is still delightful to view.
 
http://www.buttonwoodmanor.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/14 13:45:34 (permalink)
The Peacock Inn in Princeton, New Jersey is very much alive and kicking.  It is now a luxury hotel with a equally luxury restaurant.  You'd better have some bucks if you want to eat here.  It is a very elegant place to sleep and dine in.  Duncan Hines said that it had "fine food at moderate prices."  I don't the moderate prices apply any longer.
 
Here is the website---and take some time to look at the pictures:
 
http://www.peacockinn.com/
 
And here is the menu---and take some time to look at the prices:
 
http://cdn1.buuteeq.com/upload/19018/a-la-carte-menu-44.pdf
 
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/14 14:02:12 (permalink)
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The Peacock Inn in Princeton, New Jersey is very much alive and kicking.  It is now a luxury hotel with a equally luxury restaurant.  You'd better have some bucks if you want to eat here.  It is a very elegant place to sleep and dine in.  Duncan Hines said that it had "fine food at moderate prices."  I don't the moderate prices apply any longer.
 
Here is the website---and take some time to look at the pictures:
 
http://www.peacockinn.com/
 
And here is the menu---and take some time to look at the prices:
 
http://cdn1.buuteeq.com/upload/19018/a-la-carte-menu-44.pdf
 
 


$19 for soup? Better have a side of Scallops or something...jeez.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 08:27:30 (permalink)
I don't think I've ever seen Spanish Octopus on a menu before.  Maybe I've just been living under a rock or something.
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 15:15:55 (permalink)
The Hilton Hotel in Albuquerque, New Mexico that Duncan Hines recommended many years ago is still in operation.  It was one of the very first Hilton hotels.  I'm sure the dining room has gone through many changes since Duncan Hines first dined here.  In his 1941 restaurant guide, Hines said, "This Spanish colonial hotel, is a beauty and well worth visiting, even if you have not time to eat here.  Features Spanish and native New Mexican meals, trout and buffalo steak."
 
http://www.hotelandaluz.com/mas-tapas-y-vino/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 15:20:54 (permalink)
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I don't think I've ever seen Spanish Octopus on a menu before.  Maybe I've just been living under a rock or something.
 

Make room. I'll join you under that rock.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 15:26:08 (permalink)
The El Rancho Hotel in Gallup, New Mexico, now known as "the home of the movie stars," is on the National Register of Historic Places" and has one of the many restaurants that Duncan Hines once recommended.  Located on Route 66, it still draws customers each year.  Hines didn't have too much to say about the restaurant itself; he said in his guidebook that it was "an amazing combination of chromium, jazz, and cowboy paraphernalia."  The website doesn't have much to say about the restaurant either.  So the thing to do is go there and check it out.
 
http://route66hotels.org/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 15:52:09 (permalink)
La Posta in Mesilla, New Mexico has come a long way since Duncan Hines first walked through their doors.  It opened with only four tables on a dirt floor in 1939, but it found its way into Duncan Hines's restaurant guide by 1941.  So the food must have been extraordinarily good even then for him to recommend it.  Hines said of it, "La Posta was the principal stop on the old stage line when Mesilla was the capital of the Arizona-New Mexico territory.  Just a block from Billy the Kid Museum."  He didn't say anything about the food, but he did he mention the cook at the time, mentioning here ability to prepare genuine Mexican dishes as well as steaks and chicken.
 
https://www.laposta-de-mesilla.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 16:09:15 (permalink)
Duncan Hines once recommended La Fonda in Santa Fe, New Mexico.  It is now called La Fonda on the Plaza.  A former Harvey House, it still serves quality cuisine.  Duncan Hines wrote that it was "the pride of the Fred Harvey system, and deservedly so.  A beauty indeed.  Air-conditioned.  Add to this their famous cuisine, and you have the reason for dining here."  And that's all you need to know!
 
https://www.lafondasantafe.com/dining-entertainment
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 16:22:26 (permalink)
The Sagebrush Inn in Taos, New Mexico was on Duncan Hines's radar in 1941 and maybe earlier.  It is still in operation and has modified its name slightly--but that's the only change.  It's still a quality dining destination.  Hines wrote, "Taos is known as "arty."  This inn is one of those nice ones that you remember and talk about after you get back home.  Meals nicely cooked, nicely served, with a wide choice."
 
https://www.sagebrushinn.com/
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/15 19:08:37 (permalink)
Louis,
 
Both La Fonda and the Sagebrush Inn are in my copy of the 1938 AIGE.
 
I am reading a biography of Fred (and his son Ford) Harvey and enjoy seeing that Fred Harvey restaurants were favorites of Duncan. Fred Harvey and Duncan Hines seem like kindred spirits in there insistence on restaurant cleanliness and excellence.
 
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Update: I found a link to the Stern's review of this book here.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/16 07:32:44 (permalink)
I wrote a little history of the Harvey houses in the original version of my Duncan Hines biography, but that part (along with about 400 pages) got thrown out before the book got published.  The university press said they couldn't afford to print the original.  The University of Michigan will soon have a loose-leaf copy of the original, larger version.  The Library of Congress have two copies of it already.
 
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/16 16:40:24 (permalink)
I did some Fred Harvey counting in my 1938 Adventures in Good Eating book.
  • Kansas: 5 of 11 listings are Harvey Houses.
  • New Mexico: 8 of 15.
  • Arizona: 7 of 23.
Fred Harvey restaurants dominated dining in the Southwest in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. This was initially due to shrewd business dealings between Fred and the Santa Fe railroad. He first negotiated free shipping of restaurant provisions on the Santa Fe from Chicago and Kansas City to his restaurants which were all dining stops for the railroad. Later he received a subsidy from the railroad for all meals served in their dining cars. With these advantages, he could serve the best quality food in the West at the lowest possible prices. His high standards carried forward into the next century as witnessed by Duncan Hines and documented in his guides.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/18 21:00:51 (permalink)
We just came back from Henderson KY on I-57 yesterday and I mentioned to my wife, remember when we were kids and there were so many Fred Harvey restaurants.
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Re: Surviving Duncan Hines Family Restaurants 2017/06/18 21:26:06 (permalink)
It's almost as if a Surviving Fred Harvey Restaurants thread is called for...
 
In the early 1960s my mom worked at the Fred Harvey located in the Belvidere (IL) Oasis on I-90.
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