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2015/06/29 09:38:39 (permalink)

Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more

A very interesting article about some fish and seafood that are just becoming to get served in America's restaurants.......
 
http://news.yahoo.com/theres-price-pay-not-eating-americas-ugly-seafood-070750891.html
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 14:29:46 (permalink)
Yuck! Dogfish are trash fish. They rank right down there with tilapia.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 14:51:04 (permalink)
Lobster was originally deemed only fit for fertilizer or fish bait.  Then it became food for servants and poor folk.  Look where it is today.  Just wait and see what happens to dogfish!
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 15:03:25 (permalink)
Just give it a new name. They did that for Sea Bass.
 
Call of the Wild Seafood
 
 
 
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 17:35:13 (permalink)
I've had bluefish in the Outer Banks. It's pretty good stuff. A little darker than most people are used to seeing in a fish, but the taste was pretty darned good. I've eaten shark, so eating dogfish wouldn't be a stretch or anything. I'm always willing to give it a try.
 
MH: Tilapia isn't a trash fish. It is the oldest farmed fish in existence. A couple of thousand years, if memory serves me right. Tastes pretty good if you know how to cook it. It lends itself well to flavouring. I like a nice tequila lime version of it.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 18:19:41 (permalink)
IMHO, Tilapia is the perfect fish for people who hate fish.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 18:24:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Twinwillow 2015/06/30 17:00:33
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IMHO, Tilapia is the perfect fish for people who hate fish.


Right. I think of it as the piscene version of Olive Garden, which is for people who don't like Italian food.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 18:59:22 (permalink)
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IMHO, Tilapia is the perfect fish for people who hate fish.


AGREE!!!  I won't touch it!
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 19:36:31 (permalink)
In my native southern RI, where there are several commercial fishermen, I see bumper stickers on their cars/trucks that say "Tilapia Is Not Seafood".   I'm not a fan of fishy tasting fish, but I still refuse to eat Tilapia.  For people who don't like fishy fish, you don't need to get Tilapia.    Cod, haddock, Pollock, and halibut are all fairly mild.  
 
If you go to New England, and see "scrod" (also spelled "schrod") on the menu, that will also be a mild choice.  The term scrod (schrod) is an old acronym.   It comes from when people went to the dock and bought  fish by the fish, rather by the pound.  In  other words, 1 codfish costs "X", no matter what size... bg ir small.  So naturally the largest fish got sold fist, given that they were the same price as the smaller ones.  If you got there late in the day, the remaining smaller fish were called SCROD - Small Cod Remaining On Dock.   or SCHROD - Small Cod/Haddock Remaining ODock.   Codfish / Scrod seems more prevalent on menus in RI, while Haddock / Schrod seems more prevalent on menus in Massachusetts. 
 
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post edited by Glenn1234 - 2015/06/29 20:30:28
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 20:19:45 (permalink)
I wont touch tilapia and neither will Bob. I don't care how its prepared, it IS garbage fish.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/29 23:46:44 (permalink)
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I wont touch tilapia and neither will Bob. I don't care how its prepared, it IS garbage fish.


That's right, Ann...and not just because it's a tasteless freshwater fish. it's the most widely farmed fish in the world, which means it probably came from an unregulated Asian farm, filled with antibiotics and antibiotic-resistant bacteria...
if you're unfortunate enough to have to buy fish at a major supermarket chain, make sure you ask the source of the "fresh" fish.. Chances are the answer will be China, little or no regulation, overfilled pools filled with human fecal matter and other lovelies....
For me, no more farm-raised fin-fish regardless of the farm location....including off-shore farmed Bluefin Tuna......
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Glenn, Thanks for that info. I always wondered where scrod got it's name, but just figured it was a marketing term for small cod.....buzzword etymological   gems like that is one of the many reasons, I love this board........That info has already gone into my "know-it-all curmudgeon's, bore-the-crap-out-of-your-friends" handbook....I'm just editing my fifth volume.... 
post edited by wingmanBBF - 2015/06/30 00:11:09
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/30 11:08:44 (permalink)
My only issue with tilapia is being a farmed fish, it lacks the flavor of wild caught fish.  I consider it like farmed chicken breast.  Flavor-wise a blank canvas to build upon because there's just not much there to start with.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/30 12:23:34 (permalink)
The oceans have been fished out for decades.  Unless we want to eat farmed fish we had better start eating things like mackerel, sardines and dogfish. 
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/30 14:27:21 (permalink)
That's exactly why I don't eat much seafood anymore.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/30 14:50:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Twinwillow 2015/06/30 17:02:51
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The oceans have been fished out for decades.  Unless we want to eat farmed fish we had better start eating things like mackerel, sardines and dogfish. 


My problem with farm-raised finfish is control, quality, and antibiotics, not the concept itself.
if I know and trust the farm from which it came and what it was fed, I'm fine with it.
 
However, I've been eating bluefish, monkfish, mackerel, sea robin, dogfish and skate all my life.
My dad taught me how to prepare it and, more importantly, that the restaurants,  chefs and fish mongers who have determined what trash fish is, did it based more on what was profitable and easy to prep than any other reason.
He taught me how to prep skate, quick grill then sauté it in brown butter....clean and bake a sea robin filled with shrimp/ritz cracker stuffing, and hot-grill dogfish with lime and butter...better than sword.
 
All great, but more importantly, he taught me not to let public opinion dictate what I like....
I agree that we've overfished many species to near extinction, but wild salmon, shad and other river breeders are manageable and sustainable, as are virtually all pelagics....and if we expand our mainstream perceptions to embrace so-called "trash-fish" we'll also be able to sustain ourselves, very happily for generations to come.
 
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/06/30 17:04:09 (permalink)
In addition to being tasteless, Tilapia has no nutritional value whatsoever.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/07/02 00:20:39 (permalink)
Skate is wonderful!  I first had it in the late 70s when I lived in France.  As fish is my favorite food, I probably have eaten and/or prepared most of the fish on the planet.  Except anything farm-raised or anything from a country I don't consider "safe" like Bangladesh, Pakistan, etc.  I have not had dogfish but would gladly try it.   
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/07/02 15:18:58 (permalink)
I on the other hand like tilapia, it is sort of like chicken (NO not taste like chicken) it can be used for all sorts of dishes.  It is decently priced, full of protein, and can be used so many different ways.
 
Skate is good to, I actually cant think of a flat fish that I dont like.
 
The one I can't stand is Swai or Vietnamese Catfish, BLECH, give me southern raised catfish and i will be a happy camper all day long.
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Re: Sustainable seafood, the dogfish and more 2015/07/02 18:16:21 (permalink)
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In addition to being tasteless, Tilapia has no nutritional value whatsoever.


The USDA and nutrition scientists disagree with you. It's quite healthy as white fish go.
http://nutritiondata.self...llfish-products/9244/2
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