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2015/06/26 16:47:09 (permalink)

The 21 oldest pizzerias in America

http://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/oldest-pizzerias-in-america-the-21-oldest-pizzerias-in-america
 
If longevity is a sign of quality,then we should look at this list. The authors seem to think so. Please notice most of these "bests" are in New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut. You Pepe's people rejoice.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/26 17:14:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Twinwillow 2015/06/27 17:24:45
By the way,I noticed they give the nod to "oldest" to papa's in New Jersey. I always believed it was Lombardi's in NYC....and their web site(see link below) heralds that honor!!
http://firstpizza.com/
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/26 17:14:44 (permalink)
For some reason they said Modern in New Haven used to be Washington Apizza. I'd love to know when that might have been. I'd never heard of Modern till I read about it here on Roadfood, but I used to eat there. Back then it was State Street Apizza. What surprised me on that list was Pizzi Café in Conneaut, Ohio. I've been to Conneaut many times (there's really good walleye, steelhead and smallmouth fishing off Conneaut in Lake Erie) and I'd never heard of the place. I think I hear a Day Trippin Around Ohio visit coming up.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 10:36:57 (permalink)
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By the way,I noticed they give the nod to "oldest" to papa's in New Jersey. I always believed it was Lombardi's in NYC....and their web site(see link below) heralds that honor!!
http://firstpizza.com/




Lombardi's was closed for a while...5 or 10 years... and that seems to be an issue with some who put together these lists. I guess technically it hasn't been open since 1905 as they say.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 11:18:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Twinwillow 2015/06/27 17:25:05
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By the way,I noticed they give the nod to "oldest" to papa's in New Jersey. I always believed it was Lombardi's in NYC....and their web site(see link below) heralds that honor!!
http://firstpizza.com/




Lombardi's was closed for a while...5 or 10 years... and that seems to be an issue with some who put together these lists. I guess technically it hasn't been open since 1905 as they say.


That may be, but I'm a traditionalist. As far as I'm concerned that 1905 date stands.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 11:32:14 (permalink)
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For some reason they said Modern in New Haven used to be Washington Apizza. I'd love to know when that might have been. I'd never heard of Modern till I read about it here on Roadfood, but I used to eat there. Back then it was State Street Apizza. What surprised me on that list was Pizzi Café in Conneaut, Ohio. I've been to Conneaut many times (there's really good walleye, steelhead and smallmouth fishing off Conneaut in Lake Erie) and I'd never heard of the place. I think I hear a Day Trippin Around Ohio visit coming up.




Michael, where did the term Apizza, come into play? Is there a difference between Apizza and just Pizza. Ot is it simply a play on a Pizza? Always curious about that.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 12:07:17 (permalink)
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For some reason they said Modern in New Haven used to be Washington Apizza. I'd love to know when that might have been. I'd never heard of Modern till I read about it here on Roadfood, but I used to eat there. Back then it was State Street Apizza. What surprised me on that list was Pizzi Café in Conneaut, Ohio. I've been to Conneaut many times (there's really good walleye, steelhead and smallmouth fishing off Conneaut in Lake Erie) and I'd never heard of the place. I think I hear a Day Trippin Around Ohio visit coming up.




Michael, where did the term Apizza, come into play? Is there a difference between Apizza and just Pizza. Ot is it simply a play on a Pizza? Always curious about that.


Apizza (ah-BEETZ) is dialect from the Naples area town where Frank Pepe was born and reared.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 12:52:51 (permalink)
Yes, growing up in Italian North Jersey in the 50's,heard a lot of Italians speaking Italian-American,with their accents, saying "A beetz".I guess someone thought it cool,or "Italian" sounding to duplicate it. Sounds good,so go with it!!
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 13:08:54 (permalink)
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Yes, growing up in Italian North Jersey in the 50's,heard a lot of Italians speaking Italian-American,with their accents, saying "A beetz".I guess someone thought it cool,or "Italian" sounding to duplicate it. Sounds good,so go with it!!


I was all grown up before I first heard the word pizza. I couldn't understand why it was being mispronounced.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 13:15:14 (permalink)
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Yes, growing up in Italian North Jersey in the 50's,heard a lot of Italians speaking Italian-American,with their accents, saying "A beetz".I guess someone thought it cool,or "Italian" sounding to duplicate it. Sounds good,so go with it!!


I was all grown up before I first heard the word pizza. I couldn't understand why it was being mispronounced.



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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 13:45:24 (permalink)
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Yes, growing up in Italian North Jersey in the 50's,heard a lot of Italians speaking Italian-American,with their accents, saying "A beetz".I guess someone thought it cool,or "Italian" sounding to duplicate it. Sounds good,so go with it!!


I was all grown up before I first heard the word pizza. I couldn't understand why it was being mispronounced.





It's true. It was 1965 and we were in Charleston, West Virginia. We went into a place called The Anchor on Mccorkle Avenue. We ordered an apizza and the waiter didn't understand. I ended up pointing to it on the menu and he said something like, "Oh, pizza." That was the first time I ever heard the word.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 14:52:31 (permalink)
Cool!
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 18:02:35 (permalink)
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Yes, growing up in Italian North Jersey in the 50's,heard a lot of Italians speaking Italian-American,with their accents, saying "A beetz".I guess someone thought it cool,or "Italian" sounding to duplicate it. Sounds good,so go with it!!


I was all grown up before I first heard the word pizza. I couldn't understand why it was being mispronounced.





It's true. It was 1965 and we were in Charleston, West Virginia. We went into a place called The Anchor on Mccorkle Avenue. We ordered an apizza and the waiter didn't understand. I ended up pointing to it on the menu and he said something like, "Oh, pizza." That was the first time I ever heard the word.


You oughta get out more.  
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 18:16:02 (permalink)
I get out a little more now. I am surprised, though, to find there are still some people still mistakenly calling it pizza.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 18:27:21 (permalink)
You are probably disappointed whenever you are served pizza.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 19:04:41 (permalink)
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You are probably disappointed whenever you are served pizza.


In fact, I haven't had an apizza since last June at Pepe's.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 19:53:05 (permalink)
This is actually a pretty interesting list, although I'd eliminate places that are not in their original location. Papa's in Trenton moved a couple of years ago to suburban Robbinsville (they mention that). And while the pizza is still excellent, the place has zero charm.
 
On the other hand they are right on the mark when they say Sam's in Downtown Brooklyn is "under the radar", hardly ever gets any press, but is as authentic as they come.
 
I was pleased to see Aloy's in Poughkeepsie on the list. That place was recommended to me by our own late-great Roadfooder Seafarer John when my wife and I did the Walkway Over the Hudson a few years ago. It's really an Italian Restaurant that serves pizza, but it's old-school all the way. I've since passed along the recommendation to several other friends who have "done the walkway", it's within walking distance of the Poughkeepsie end.
 
In case anyone is wondering, What walkway? Here it is. Worth a daytrip from anywhere within a couple of hours:
 
http://www.walkway.org/
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 20:24:17 (permalink)
Wow! I'd never heard it before. I mean the Walkway Over the Hudson.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/27 20:57:05 (permalink)
As it has no mention of Gary, Indiana, this list is clearly worthless.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/28 18:57:33 (permalink)
Absolutely!
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/28 20:00:53 (permalink)
Mo Fairbanks, Alaska, either!
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/28 21:09:51 (permalink)
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As it has no mention of Gary, Indiana, this list is clearly worthless.
How many years later and any mention of this still brings a huge smile to my face.


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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/29 12:27:52 (permalink)
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Mo Fairbanks, Alaska, either!


They're still trying to figure out how to turn muktuk and stinky heads into a pizza.  So far, no luck.
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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/29 12:59:30 (permalink)
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 What surprised me on that list was Pizzi Café in Conneaut, Ohio. I've been to Conneaut many times (there's really good walleye, steelhead and smallmouth fishing off Conneaut in Lake Erie) and I'd never heard of the place. I think I hear a Day Trippin Around Ohio visit coming up.
If you are going to Conneaut, OH for pizza, you mind as well stop in at White Turkey Drive-In.


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Re: The 21 oldest pizzerias in America 2015/06/29 13:19:24 (permalink)
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 What surprised me on that list was Pizzi Café in Conneaut, Ohio. I've been to Conneaut many times (there's really good walleye, steelhead and smallmouth fishing off Conneaut in Lake Erie) and I'd never heard of the place. I think I hear a Day Trippin Around Ohio visit coming up.
If you are going to Conneaut, OH for pizza, you mind as well stop in at White Turkey Drive-In.




Lisa already has that down. We'll be going to Andover, too. There are a few places I want to try there -- Scooter's by the Lake, the Andover Diner and Barb's.  It's going to be a two-day trip.
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