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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/17 19:05:37 (permalink)
Just a little side note about Gene Autry. Don't know if this true, partly true or not true at all. Supposedly when Gene's horse died (Champion?) he was interested in having him stuffed aka mounted like Roy Rogers did with Trigger. When informed how much it would cost he reportedly said, Well just bury the sob then.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/18 00:54:42 (permalink)
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Just a little side note about Gene Autry. Don't know if this true, partly true or not true at all. Supposedly when Gene's horse died (Champion?) he was interested in having him stuffed aka mounted like Roy Rogers did with Trigger. When informed how much it would cost he reportedly said, Well just bury the sob then.

Autry had 3 horses named "Champion" plus some backups. His career lasted longer than his horses! Based on this report, I doubt Autry even considered stuffing old "Champ"!
http://www.b-westerns.com/hoss-ga.htm
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/18 00:58:41 (permalink)
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I am staying in McKinney right now

What's a nice girl like you doing in McKinney TX???????????
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/18 09:40:52 (permalink)
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I am staying in McKinney right now

What's a nice girl like you doing in McKinney TX???????????

Presently, she's "enjoying" some Arizona, Valley of the Sun-style, heat:  103 here today.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/18 10:59:53 (permalink)
First thing...  I am not nice.
 
Thanks for the recommendations.  It is hot here, but it doesn't bother me as much as the Los Angeles 80 degree heat.  Dry heat is so much better.
 
Visiting with family in McKinney.  We'll probably be here about 3 weeks using it as a base.  Going to drive to New Orleans and Branson, MO.
 
Traveling with 2 dogs makes some restaurant stops impossible.  I'll write about our eating adventures when I get home.
 
Went to McKinney Market Days yesterday to enjoy the heat.  Luckily there was a breeze to make it seem cooler.
 
Hutchins is going to be one of our dinners I believe.  Maybe we'll pick up a pizza when we visit The Square.
 
So far it was Chuy's for dinner which was okay.  We are also supposed to have lunch at Norma's Cafe in Plano.
 
Drove by the In 'n Out while we were exploring yesterday.
 
I like McKinney.   I can't believe how much retail is around here.  The housing reminds me of Palm Springs.... a whole bunch of planned neighborhoods.  We're staying near the intersections of Eldorado and Ridge.  Very nice homes here.
 
It's off to Denison today to visit with more family.
 
Thanks for the tips!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/18 12:01:11 (permalink)
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I am staying in McKinney right now

What's a nice girl like you doing in McKinney TX???????????

Presently, she's "enjoying" some Arizona, Valley of the Sun-style, heat:  103 here today.

109 here yesterday, more of same today! After it gets 100, it doesn't matter after that---It's hot!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/20 10:41:03 (permalink)
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I like McKinney.   I can't believe how much retail is around here.  The housing reminds me of Palm Springs.... a whole bunch of planned neighborhoods.  We're staying near the intersections of Eldorado and Ridge.  Very nice homes here.


Yes, the housing in McKinney is both planned and plush - the big difference between us and Palm Springs (aside from the fact that we have trees and grass lawns!) is that what costs $900,000 in Palm Springs you can get in McKinney for $250,000 all day long.  And what do we spend those housing savings on?
 
RETAIL!  If you think McKinney has retail, take the short trip west on Eldorado and turn left on Preston Rd.  The next six miles seemingly has two each of every "big box" conceived by the mind of man and a Sun Coast Plaza-scale "super mall". 
 
Comprising less than 10% of the DFW "Metroplex", the 600,000 citizens of Plano-McKinney-Frisco-Allen has to lead the world in retail sq. feet and restaurant seats per capita.  Our favorite saying:  "What recession?".
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/20 11:15:01 (permalink)
We drove around McKinney yesterday starting with breakfast at Bob Smith's.  Maybe his name is Bill.. I'll post pictures when I get home.
 
The retail is remarkable!
 
The housing in Palm Springs has taken a dive.  It's more realistic now.  A home that cost $429,000  about 5 - 6 years ago skyrocketed up in to the $700,000's and now can be had in the high $300,000's.
 
Saw Hutchin's yesterday and we'll probably do the drive-through and eat it at home.
I'm having fun in your supermarkets.
 
I realize that Tom Thumb is Safeway but it's still different.  Market Street had me coming back for more because I found the clearance table upstairs!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2011/06/21 07:55:25 (permalink)
It is Bill Smith's.  I hope you had cash; otherwise, Bill nicks you for a $3.00 ATM fee - just like Joe T. Garcia's over in Ft. Worth.
 
I'd eat in at Hutchin's, otherwise you won't get your "free" banana puddin' w/ Nilla Vanillas.  BTW:  even though the 'hood there is not shiny and new, it is perfectly safe.  As you may have heard, crime is punished here in Texas:  surely, swiftly, and harshly.  That is why we have relatively few "incidents".
 
Even though we live near Eldorado CC, only about 0.3 miles east of Tom Thumb, we much prefer Market Street, which to us coming from McLean, VA is like a "mini-Wegman's".  One of the "cool" things about living here is that there is a definite "small town vibe", yet within 5 miles there are 12 groceries, three hospitals, 126 golf holes, 40 movie screens, two each of Home Depot & Lowe's, etc.  But, it is 10 miles to the nearest Nordstrom and 15 to Neiman's and Saks ...
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 09:35:31 (permalink)
Last week, Cousin Johnny, a.k.a. Big Tex, and I drove around Texas for our annual vacation together.  Since it was similar to the path we took in a 2008 trip, I plan on just adding to this old trip report.
 
Needless to say, we had plenty of opportunity for bbq.  We tried different things in different restaurants, but we always tried the brisket.  Some were ordinary, some were exceptional.  Here is where we went:
 
The Pit Room (Houston, TX)

 
Roegels Barbecue Co. (Houston, TX)

 
Black's Barbecue (Lockhart, TX)

 
Southside Market (Elgin, TX)

 
Louie Mueller Barbecue (Taylor, TX)

 
Cattleack Barbecue (Farmers Branch, TX)
 
Lean

 
Fatty

 
CorkScrew BBQ (Spring, TX)

 
Tejas Chocolate & Barbecue (Tomball, TX)

 
I will come back later and add commentary on what we thought of each place.  Which would be your preference?  Cousin Johnny and I disagreed on which was our favorites.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 09:42:52 (permalink)
At Houston's Roegels Barbecue, we also added a massive beef rib. 


Looks like something out of the Flintstones!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 10:03:11 (permalink)
Wow! These photos are fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing more on this trip.
 
By the way, I still consider the beef short rib I had at Louie Mueller's a few years ago to be the single best piece of meat I've ever eaten.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 10:48:32 (permalink)
Did you sample both flat and point at each brisket stop?  I definitely prefer point but of the flats I think Cattleack and Tejas look like they have the best fat caps.
 
And having said that I think I'd be tempted to choose the beef rib over everything.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 10:58:13 (permalink)
From the photo, most of which I have seen, Roegels looks moist, nice ring, cut/sliced perfectly, just the right amount of lean...and best looking to me.  
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 13:21:02 (permalink)
Looks are deceiving I know, but Cattleack and Roegels are the visual winners.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 14:27:57 (permalink)
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Did you sample both flat and point at each brisket stop?  I definitely prefer point but of the flats I think Cattleack and Tejas look like they have the best fat caps.
 
And having said that I think I'd be tempted to choose the beef rib over everything.


I'm afraid you are using some terminology I am unfamiliar with.  Although it is probably self-explanatory, let me look these up and get back to you.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 14:29:12 (permalink)
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Wow! These photos are fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing more on this trip.
 
By the way, I still consider the beef short rib I had at Louie Mueller's a few years ago to be the single best piece of meat I've ever eaten.


We had a chance at the beef rib at Louie Mueller's, but we had already eaten so much on that day, it just wasn't possible.  We will not make that mistake again!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 14:30:26 (permalink)
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Looks are deceiving I know, but Cattleack and Roegels are the visual winners.


100% correct about looks being deceiving, especially considering the amount of light available in each restaurant and my mediocre photography skills.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 14:33:38 (permalink)
Generally speaking, flat = lean and point = fatty.  Although I've had some fairly fatty pieces of flat and surprisingly lean pieces of point over the years.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/17 14:38:51 (permalink)
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I should have mentioned this earlier, but in each restaurant we stuck to the fatty brisket.  The one exception to this was Cattleack's, since the lovely Mrs.MetroplexJim prefers the lean.
 
Every single restaurant we visited offered both. 
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/19 10:39:37 (permalink)
1)  BB, thanks for attaching this to your 2008 / 2011 thread; it was fun reading them again.
 
2)  Isn't it amazing how digital cameras have improved over the past 10 years; all of your brisket pics look like that came right out of Gourmet or Texas Monthly.
 
3)  Clark's Outpost, The "winner" of Best BBQ and Best Meal of your epic 2008 trek burned down several years ago, but has since reopened.  We haven't visited the rebuilt place yet so maybe that's a worthy destination for your next trip.
 
4)  Speaking of 'winners', have you and Cousin Johnny ranked your recent carnivorous adventures?
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/19 18:17:21 (permalink)
Glad to hear that Clark's Outpost has reopened!
 
Also hope I don't see Texas for many years to come.  It's the family, not the state.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/27 11:08:50 (permalink)
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The retail is remarkable!



It was remarkable in 2011 when you posted; now it is simply unbelievable, easily double what you observed then.
 
And the food scene has risen along with the new "mini-cities" that surround the new corporate HQ's that are flocking to Collin County.  Now, DFW has BBQ as good as Austin/Hill Country and Neapolitan pizza as good as NYC's. 
 
To my shock (and AWE) Cattleack BBQ even offers Eastern Carolina vinegar/pepper sauce to go with their pork.  I'll have to call and see if it is the whole hog or just the shoulder.  
 
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/04/29 14:10:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ChiTownDiner 2019/04/30 15:00:05
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To my shock (and AWE) Cattleack BBQ even offers Eastern Carolina vinegar/pepper sauce to go with their pork.  I'll have to call and see if it is the whole hog or just the shoulder.  
 



Jim,
 
Cattleack has pulled pork as a standard menu selection.
 
They usually do a whole hog on the 1st Saturday of the month - which is the only Saturday they are open. 
 
For May, they will be closed May 4 (1st Saturday) but open on May 11 and serving whole hog bbq.
 
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/05 19:15:58 (permalink)
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1)  BB, thanks for attaching this to your 2008 / 2011 thread; it was fun reading them again.
 
2)  Isn't it amazing how digital cameras have improved over the past 10 years; all of your brisket pics look like that came right out of Gourmet or Texas Monthly.
 
3)  Clark's Outpost, The "winner" of Best BBQ and Best Meal of your epic 2008 trek burned down several years ago, but has since reopened.  We haven't visited the rebuilt place yet so maybe that's a worthy destination for your next trip.
 
4)  Speaking of 'winners', have you and Cousin Johnny ranked your recent carnivorous adventures?


Great to hear that Clark's Outpost has reopened.  We did not know that before our trip, but it is doubtful we would have made the drive up there anyway.  There was already so much great food nearby.
 
Looking back at my food photos from this trip report is a little embarrassing.  The cameras sure have come a long way.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/05 19:52:23 (permalink)
Texas just might be the best state in the country for burgers, although Oklahoma certainly has something to say about that.  And of course, we ate more than our fair share:
 
Blake's BBQ and Burgers (Houston, TX)

 
Stanton City Bites (Houston, TX)

 
Top Notch Hamburgers (Austin, TX)

 
Ed's Place (Taylor, TX)

 
Kuby's Sausage House (Dallas, TX)

 
Melios Bros Char Bar (Dallas, TX)

 
Lankford Grocery (Houston, TX)


 
Top Notch Hamburgers was my #1 burger in 2018, but this year they couldn't even win the state.  That honor goes to Ed's Place, a rough and tumble bar just a stone's throw from Louie Mueller's.  Cooked perfectly medium, nice crusty exterior and a well griddled bun made for a great burger experience.
 
The sausagey burger from Kuby's is known as the Frikadellen burger and earns bonus points for coming with German potato salad as a side.  And that messy burger from Lankford's was a Fritos pie burger, which we enjoyed more than expected.
 
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/05 22:09:53 (permalink)
Great burgers!  They all look wonderful!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/05 22:37:22 (permalink)
I agree. They look perfect. Like the bread on Stanton City bites. Looks almost like crusty Italian!
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/14 14:18:41 (permalink)
I've been wanting to do a Texas roadfood trip for many years with my brother and like ChiTownDiner, I want to try as many chicken fried steaks as I can.  But I also want to try as much BBQ (especially brisket) so I'll have to go back and forth with each meal.  It's funny how big of a deal pie (and dessert) is for you BB.  I always make the meal the highlight and dessert is usually an afterthought; plus I'm usually too full for dessert anyway.  Thanks for your great trip reports and photos.
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Re:The stars at night are big & bright... 2019/05/14 14:33:09 (permalink)
Great looking burgers!
 
Buffetbuster ..... am I remembering correctly that Ed's Place is visible from the back lot of Louis Mueller?  I think I remember seeing the sign and thinking I wish I had the appetite for a burger. But I was full of short rib and brisket.
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