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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 07:20:08 (permalink)
Wonderful visual to illustrate the weight and power of the locomotive - one of the greatest design and engineering achievements of Western Civilization - and today, sadly, one of the least appreciated.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 10:39:10 (permalink)
I grew up a few miles from Conway Yard, the largest freight yard in the world from 1956 to 1980.  Now it's owned by Norfolk Southern Railway.  We saw trains every day.  In Sewickley, PA the tracks are very close to Rt. 65.  I always hoped we'd see the end of the train because the guy in the caboose would wave.  They have some interesting pictures on their FB page.  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Norfolk-Southern-Railway-Conway-Yard/289458457753185
 
Now it's the second largest freight yard in the US.  MH has often commented that he is astonished by it's size. 
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 16:54:31 (permalink)
What always amazed me in travelling was the many times I saw huge lines of train and train cars just sitting, often on a side rail for days.  The Capital investment in this stuff must be huge, and if it's not moving, it's not making money!
 
The same thing is true, to a lesser degree, to big yards of construction equipment, mostly specialty items. It seems ships,other than mothballed Navy ones, seem to do a better job of being kept on the go.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 17:44:10 (permalink)
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I grew up a few miles from Conway Yard, the largest freight yard in the world from 1956 to 1980.  Now it's owned by Norfolk Southern Railway.  We saw trains every day.  In Sewickley, PA the tracks are very close to Rt. 65.  I always hoped we'd see the end of the train because the guy in the caboose would wave.  They have some interesting pictures on their FB page.  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Norfolk-Southern-Railway-Conway-Yard/289458457753185
 
 Now it's the second largest freight yard in the US.  MH has often commented that he is astonished by it's size. 




Impressive, indeed:
 

 
And so is Ft. Worth's Davidson Yards:
 

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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 20:06:31 (permalink)
It is amazing. I've never seen anything like it.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/24 23:10:32 (permalink)
As a kid I remember never seeing the tracks at Conway Yard........it was ALWAYS loaded with trains.  In the summer we would go to Baden to see the trains and to watch J&L Steel dump molten hot SLAG by the tons into the Ohio River.  Little did we know..........
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/25 08:10:54 (permalink)
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... and to watch J&L Steel dump molten hot SLAG by the tons into the Ohio River.  Little did we know..........



Please go on ...
 
I remember that sight well, too.  And very fondly.  In fact it brings a tear to my eye - kinda' like the one in that 'crying Indian' commercial back in the '70's, albeit for an entirely different reason.
 
When you get down to it, what's a few boiled fish compared to forging the skeleton of America and defeating two empires across two oceans in WWII?  Yes, the nights were lit by fire and the noon sun was blocked by smoke because we had bigger fish to fry.  And the Conway Yard shipped that steel to Detroit, Los Angeles, and Norfolk.
 
Maybe this was the beginning of Pittsburgh's fascination with those wonderful fish sandwiches!
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/25 10:03:53 (permalink)
I found a new love in slow travel, making the journey part of the trip. I spent most of my life making the destination the most important part. I have taken trains in Europe, it's a great way to travel from country to country. I renewed this love when we took the train for 3 nights across Canada from Vancouver to Toronto. I'm thinking of taking the return trip next year. We took the train from Pasco, Wa to Chicago two years ago and enjoyed that. It was also a great way to travel from NYC to Boston ridding the rails along the coast seeing the sights in Connecticut, RI and Mass. We also took the train from NYC to Philadelphia, then on to Washington DC.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/25 12:02:42 (permalink)
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Yes, that molten slag was something to see.  Our house was at the highest point in Beaver County.  We could see the Ohio River and in the winter, with no leaves on the trees, we could watch them pouring the slag.  But it was more fun to go to Baden and watch it directly from across the river.  The J&L Steel mill was 7 miles long on the Aliquippa side!  On the other side you had American Bridge Company that stopped manufacturing bridge parts during WWII and made LSTs.  I'm sure all of this was loaded onto trains to reach the final destination. 
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/25 18:22:04 (permalink)
Let's get back out to open country...
Here's what makes me homesick for the railfan time I enjoyed so much in the So Cal Desert area.
This is a Union Pacific Freight eastbound coming over the Tehachapi Line from the Central Valley of CA.
It's lead power unit is a CSX General Electric 6000 hp locomotive. U P bought a bunch of these AC6000's when they first came out in the mid-1990's, but had a lot of maint. issues with them and down-graded them to the standard 4400 hp engine to solve the problems...CSX kept their's at the rated 6000 hp pulling coal trains in the east. Seeing one in CA is really unusual.
BTW this photo was  taken by a friend , yesterday...4/24/2015.

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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/25 21:55:23 (permalink)
Pardon Me Boy, It that-----------------http://www.choochoo.com/traincars.php?dest=21
 
Speakers on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3gsPBTmbRo
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/26 06:05:46 (permalink)
I was just 6 when AMTRAK took over from the various railroads and never traveled by train until I was an adult. I always enjoyed watching trains but never had the money to waste on taking photos of them plus I enjoyed Model Railroading. My expenditures were limited to Trains and Model Railroad Magazines. As a restaurant manager, I was working 50 - 60 hours a week and barely making enough to keep a roof over my head in my late 20's when I saw something in Trains Magazine that married my interest in food and railroading.
 
It was a book review of Dining by Rail by James Porterfield. The first half of the book was a history of the dining car and the last half was recipes that various railroads were known for. The author had modified the recipes from institutional sized to home sized. I got the book from the county library and my roommate and I proceeded to make several of the recipes in the book. I then purchased my own copy.
 
My roommate was the Dietary Manager in a retirement center. One day she was passing through the dining room and heard a couple of residents reminiscing about eating in the dining car. She stopped and joined in the conversation and told them about making several of the dishes at home. The next thing you know, she had me calling railroad historical societies to get copies of the institutional sized recipes of many of the dishes and started putting them on the menu on the weekends. The menu would come out at the beginning of each month and she would name the dish and what railroad it was from.  She said that it was always a challenge trying to get the elderly to eat enough but she never had problems with the dishes that came from the railroads. The biggest issue was that she had to determine reasonably accurate nutritional values for everything for the government paperwork so that she could prove that the residents had been fed a properly balanced meal.
 
If you like a good cookbook or if you like trains check out a copy of Dining by Rail by James Porterfield.
 
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/26 09:15:57 (permalink)
Right On, CNW. That's a gem ! Add anything you can find on the growth of the Harvey House system, then stop in Winslow AZ for the ultimate version of what remains of that "chain" (in legend only).
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/26 21:01:40 (permalink)
BTW.I noticed the article did not mention another lovely trip....the cog railway up Mt. Washington in NH.  Despite living in NH, I never got  a chance, but friends tell me it is a very unique experience along with spectacular vistas.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/27 03:05:12 (permalink)
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Right On, CNW. That's a gem ! Add anything you can find on the growth of the Harvey House system, then stop in Winslow AZ for the ultimate version of what remains of that "chain" (in legend only).
 

You're talking about La Posada I assume?
 http://laposada.org/
The El Tovar at the Grand Canyon originally was a Fred Harvey Railroad Hotel. You can get there on the Grand Canyon Railway out of Williams AZ.
 http://grandcanyonsouthrimhotels.com/hotels/El-Tovar-Hotel.htm
http://www.thetrain.com
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/27 09:35:37 (permalink)
My wife and I have reservations for the Grand Canyon Railway for late June. We are really looking forward to it.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/27 13:26:30 (permalink)
Frank,
  Are you driving out or using the Amtrak connection?
 
The Grand Canyon Scenic is a fun ride, and if you have not been in the HiDesert before, it can be quite interesting. The South Rim has been developed for many years and handles the rail tourists quite well. You will have a good time for sure.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/27 19:33:44 (permalink)
Mayor Al,
 
We will be driving to Williams, AZ.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/28 00:09:54 (permalink)
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My wife and I have reservations for the Grand Canyon Railway for late June. We are really looking forward to it.

Will you be staying at the Grand Canyon Railway Hotel in Williams?
http://www.thetrain.com/lodging/the-grand-canyon-railway-hotel/
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/28 11:18:17 (permalink)
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Big Frank
My wife and I have reservations for the Grand Canyon Railway for late June. We are really looking forward to it.

Will you be staying at the Grand Canyon Railway Hotel in Williams?
http://www.thetrain.com/lodging/the-grand-canyon-railway-hotel/




 
Yes. We have booked the three day package they offer. We will have two nights at their hotel in Williams and a night at the Maswik at the Grand Canyon.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/28 14:18:42 (permalink)
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Either on your trip West, or the return East, Please take the time to do at least a walk thru, of "La Posada' The Winslow, AZ Harvey House.  Just a few minutes off I-40 and you won't regret it I promise. See the link above that Foodbeme posted...
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/28 16:03:09 (permalink)
Also see the petrified forest...about 15-20 miles away from the far eastern entrance........b=very unique
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 01:14:51 (permalink)
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Frank
Either on your trip West, or the return East, Please take the time to do at least a walk thru, of "La Posada' The Winslow, AZ Harvey House.  Just a few minutes off I-40 and you won't regret it I promise. See the link above that Foodbeme posted...

They may be going South to PHX. In that case, a stop in Sedona is in order.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 01:16:09 (permalink)
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 10:15:31 (permalink)
I'm more a Jerome fan than a Sedona
One. I would think the sheer numbers of aging hippies and star gazers would either produce loads of laughter or disdain for most round here.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 14:06:14 (permalink)
No rail lines or trains in either Sedona or Jerome....just ghosts, mystics, and pyschics staring  into the sky... Thanks, but I'll take Winslow,  La Posada,  a Pitcher of Margarita's and a comfortable chair where I can watch the rail activity on the Trans-Con Line(s) right beside the plaza.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 15:49:07 (permalink)
I was just suggesting it as an alternative to hippy dippy Sedona.
Winslow from the GC is almost New Mexico. I have done all discussed here except the Williams to GC ride.
Just my opinion on what makes Az.
Unique. We frequently took the Camp Verde route up, and the Jerome Cottonwood Yarnell Wickenburg
Route back.
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 16:30:55 (permalink)
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I was just suggesting it as an alternative to hippy dippy Sedona.



But if you go to Sedona, it's possible to use crystals to levitate yourself directly over the Grand Canyon. Try to beat that ride!
 

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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/29 17:35:32 (permalink)
I can already do that from my porch here above the clouds in Ashlandia :)
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Re: Trains, Trains and More Trains 2015/04/30 03:19:46 (permalink)
Well boys, you might be surprised to learn that there is a Historical Railway operating just south of Sedona in the Clarkdale/Cottonwood AZ area. The Verde Canyon Railroad follows the Rio Verde river up the Verde Canyon and back.
At one time the train ran between the copper mines of Jerome to the smelter in Clarkdale.
You'll see Bald Eagles nesting in the cliffs on the other side of the river as well as other wildlife and untouched countryside. 
http://verdecanyonrr.com
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