swapping components

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2017/09/18 14:43:25 (permalink)

swapping components

about to use my older rv for a lot of the items needed to get my truck outfitted. i have a perfectly good older itasca class c motor home, and a 1980 grumman thats a blank slate. i will be doing the majority of the work myself. 
my itasca is really only worth about 3 to 4k but the components i need from it are worth about double at least. has anyone done this here? pros and cons if anyone cares to share! thanks!
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/22 22:49:07 (permalink)
    It depends on what you are pulling from the RV. I can't imagine that the water tanks, the propane system, and the electrical you may be able to salvage are worth that much money. Also, figure on doing double the work. Once to take everything out and then put it back on your truck.
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/23 00:02:41 (permalink)
    I thought I was going to be able to salvage a bunch of the stuff I took out of my first food truck that I bought.
    In the end, I MAYBE ended up saving $500 over buying new stuff.
    Spend TONS of time cleaning the old stuff.
    Wasted more time than I care to think about between dismantling the old truck and trying to make the the old stuff work in the new truck, then having to buy new stuff anyway.
     
    At the same time, the amount of stuff I have learned throughout the process is amazing.
     
    My suggestion, learn from everyone on this forum so you don't make the same mistakes.
    Also, either keep the rv for an rv, or sell it to fund the food truck.
     
    I'm all for doin it yer own way, but I think this is a battle you will regret.
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/25 13:24:34 (permalink)
    sm1
    It depends on what you are pulling from the RV. I can't imagine that the water tanks, the propane system, and the electrical you may be able to salvage are worth that much money. Also, figure on doing double the work. Once to take everything out and then put it back on your truck.

    Blakkmoon
    I thought I was going to be able to salvage a bunch of the stuff I took out of my first food truck that I bought.
    In the end, I MAYBE ended up saving $500 over buying new stuff.
    Spend TONS of time cleaning the old stuff.
    Wasted more time than I care to think about between dismantling the old truck and trying to make the the old stuff work in the new truck, then having to buy new stuff anyway.
     
    At the same time, the amount of stuff I have learned throughout the process is amazing.
     
    My suggestion, learn from everyone on this forum so you don't make the same mistakes.
    Also, either keep the rv for an rv, or sell it to fund the food truck.
     
    I'm all for doin it yer own way, but I think this is a battle you will regret.





    thanks for the reply. 
    im mainly looking to get the brand new tires i just spent 1k on, rooftop ac unit, the really nice honda generator, and the electrical converter/inverter.
    i was also thinking the propane tank works great to provide fuel for the generator. its already converted to run on propane. i priced out a similar generator from honda, and its over 3k. 
    the replacement costs of just these items are more then what i could get for the rv as is, and my thought was not having to go through the hassle of trying to sell the rv, dealing with no shows, lowball offers, tire kickers etc..
    i do realize this is a huge undertaking as far as removing and reinstalling into the new truck. however, i have a place to do it, have plenty of tools, and mechanical knowledge, and this would be invaluable in knowing my truck inside and out. 
    btw, im only doing frozen lemonade, limeade, and a couple other flavors, so i wont need a full kitchen, hood, etc..


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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/25 20:03:10 (permalink)
    OOOOOHHHH
     
    Yeah, definitely steal THAT stuff.
    You will have that done in an afternoon.  mostly....
    And the rv will still be usable later if you want.
     
    I thought you were talking about fridge stove sink etc.
     
    My wife thinks I should build her a lemonade truck as well.
    Gourmet lemonade with stuff like basil and lavender etc.
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/26 09:53:31 (permalink)
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    OOOOOHHHH
     
    Yeah, definitely steal THAT stuff.
    You will have that done in an afternoon.  mostly....
    And the rv will still be usable later if you want.
     
    I thought you were talking about fridge stove sink etc.
     
    My wife thinks I should build her a lemonade truck as well.
    Gourmet lemonade with stuff like basil and lavender etc.



    thanks, i will likely take the fresh water tank, grey water tank, pump, and possibly the fridge since its small and i will have a large freezer for most of what i need.
    gourmet lemonade is great, especially in south florida.  ive been told im a master mixologist by friends and family for many years now. i love coming up with good recipes, and everyone seems to like them.
     
    ive been reading your posts about the diy stuff and learning a lot. thanks for sharing!
     
    the truck i just bought had been sitting 17 years, and just got it running yesterday! the motor sounds great! 81,000 miles on it, 1980 kurbmaster with a chevy chassis. the truck itself is in great shape, basically empty inside and the rear roll up door has rotted away, which saves me time of tearing it out. lol cant wait to get this going!
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/26 19:47:35 (permalink)
    Yeah I did that too.
    Pump worked when I pulled it, not now. trash. new.
    Fresh tank ended up having a hole. trash. new.
    Waste tank did not fit!  crap.  new.
    I sold the fridge that came with it since it pulled WAY too much watts.
    Was able to pick up a used one dirt cheap.
     
    So I can definitely say.... been there dun that.  But ya gotta try right?
     
    I have been designing the wife's truck in my head.
    I would have the standard tank for washing dishes.
    But thought it would be nice to have a 200 gallon tank for the lemonade water.
    But I have no idea how much you actually need.
    HPX would know.
     
    And yeah be glad that door is rotted.
    What a PITA that was!
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/27 14:23:21 (permalink)
    that sucks! i hope i dont run into the same!
     
    i started looking at the components yesterday, this is gonna be a lot of work! but if it saves me  a few $$ then i think it will be worth it. 
    i have to find out about the separate tank for the lemonade, since it wont be getting dumped into the grey water tank, i wonder if they would still want me to have a 15% larger grey water tank then the combined 2?
     
    besides i dont want to filter the dishwashing water. lol


    i was hoping to find either a used door or doors for the back of the truck that i could make fit, but no luck anywhere around here or online. only new and i refuse to spend 800 or more for doors. the opening is 74" x 74" so odd size of course. im pretty mechanical but finding the materials may be a challenge. 
     
    would you do 1 large door or 2 smaller doors? im thinking 1 door, less hardware etc.. like 42" w x 72" tall.
    im only planning on using the door to bring in or out any appliances or large items.
     
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/27 17:43:44 (permalink)
    You should read through my build thread.
     
    I built my own doors to fit the opening.
    And I am only using them for equipment load.
     
    I just thought its the same amount of work to build 2 door as it is to build one and the frame for it.
    Its just one more set of hinges.
     
    Lots of people just frame it with wood or metal studs and stick a 36 inch steel slab door.
    I almost went that route.
    I know one guy that just has a aluminum screen door.
     
    I had the scrap metal I wanted to re-purpose.
    And any day I get to do some welding is a good day.
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/27 19:48:42 (permalink)
    On the way home today I came across another truck for sale.
    Would be perfect for the wife's lemonade truck.
     

     
     
    89 gruman
    It's even the shorty version,  ( she doesn't want a big bus )
     
    I can get it for $ 2 grand.
     
    I just don't have the spare money right now.  Gonna need it to finish mine.
    Wish I had it though, I would put the truck away till I'm ready.
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/09/29 15:38:35 (permalink)
    looks like a clean little truck, and you cant beat the price! 
    mine is 16'. hopefully will be driving it to my shop in the next day!
     
    i will likely be building my own also. though i have help from a local fabricator (who is actually making them) i will be installing them. im thinking 1 door is probably a bit more secure then 2
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 03:38:34 (permalink)
    Our Sandwich Truck was like that 1978 chevy $2300 168K miles but it was the full length 21 footer. 4000w onan geni installed and working plus overhead AC.
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 09:49:01 (permalink)
    well, i decided to try to sell the rv first since removing and reinstalling, and pretty much ruining the rv seemed like a bad idea. sold it in 2 days! got almost what i had in it, so im happy to see it go.
    ive since purchased an older onan rv generator 6500 watts, runs awesome and low hours. ordered the concession window, and have started building the rear wall and door. its been a big undertaking as i am still working a full time job, have a small part time business, and trying to get this off the ground. but i know it will be worth it. we have been keeping track of the spending so far and im right at 7k with everything including some equipment. not bad! but still have a ways to go. 

    how do you post pictures here? 
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 10:12:09 (permalink)
    Holy crap!!
    That means I was right??
     
    Gonna have to show this to the wife!!
     
    I need a plaque or something !!  
     
    So happy that worked out for you.
    And think of the labour you saved by NOT gutting it.
     
    I wish I would have done that with my 1st truck.
    Wish I would have just left it alone and sold it as it was.
     
    But at least you got to learn something from my mistakes.
    And that's what we are here for.
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 12:08:51 (permalink)
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    Holy crap!!
    That means I was right??



    yes sir! i weighed out the options, and said if i get close to my asking price for the rv in a reasonable time, then i'll just buy what i need.
    though i see ive already made some mistakes. i bought a holding tank from class a customs thinking i could use it as a grey water tank, but not sure if it will work. ive noticed the grey/black water tanks are tapered where the drain is, and this is not. i'll figure it out though.
     
    slowly getting it together!
     
    what did you use for an electrical box? also did you use a converter/charger?
    im thinking it would be nice to be able to use the battery for some of the lighting especially if im using mostly l.e.d.
    this way i dont always have to run the generator, and it keeps the battery charged up when i do.
     
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 13:01:31 (permalink)
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    Holy crap!!
    That means I was right??
     
    Gonna have to show this to the wife!!
     
    I need a plaque or something !!  



    Its the small victories that really make life great.
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    Re: swapping components 2017/11/09 14:01:06 (permalink)
    See this for posting pics.
     
    I used fresh tanks as waste tanks.
    Just installed them on a tilt.
    Our HD is not that picky as long as they are 15% bigger.
     
    After all, its grey not black water.
    SHOULD be no solids.
    But check with your HD.
    Or just use them for the fresh and get bigger ones for waste.
    Or just sell them.
     
    My panel is in my build thread.
    I went overboard.
     
    You already got the genny, chances are that you are going to run it no matter what.
    I have never seen a truck that is operating that has their genny off.
     
    LED lights are not going to draw enough to worry about.
     
    If you plan on running more stuff on 12 v.
    Then you have to make sure that your battery stays charged.
    Which probably means having a charger wired to  .......    wait for it   ...   the generator.
    And probably something more than just a trickle charger.
     
    I don't know what you are serving....
    But you need to run ??  fridge? freezer ?  appliances?  Fan?  Air?  Hot water?  Water pump?
     
    My thinking is.... you gotta run the genny anyway.
    Why not just run it all from the genny.
    Treat the kitchen as the kitchen.
    Treat the truck as the truck.
     
    Imagine sitting at an event 2 hours from home base,for 8 or 10 hours.
    Those lights will be draining your battery the whole time.
    And you go to turn the key ........wrroooowww  tk tk tk .... you know the sound.
     
    And if your response is that you would be running the genny to charge the battery....
    I would say.. then why are just not running the lights off the genny in the 1st place.
     
    But thats just my opinion.
    I'm sure smarter people than me have better ideas.
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